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i want a scope that will pass the "box test" that i can use to hunt in low light and aim dead on at ranges from 0 to 400 yards with bright clear glass and an illuminated reticle. i have a new savage accutrigger 30-06 rifle with a full-piccatiny  one piece base i have had 3 months researching scopes. the super sniper has fixed power and no illuminated reitcle other than that it fits the bill. how does the super sniper look at short range is it blurry and overmagnified looking at say 10 yards. someone in another post said the bushnell 4200 glass was better than the super sniper is that true?i have an AK with a russian psop scope on it and i can adjust for bullet weight and distance and hit targets at 50,100,200, and 300 yards with no problem. i just dial my elavation in and aim dead on and score every time. i like aiming not shooting at targets and deer. i don't like holding over and taking a chance. i like knowing where my bullet is going at whatever distance i shoot and i go to the range and see it on paper not just read a box and take someones word for where the bullet is at 300 yards when i zero at 100. i hope someone can help me make a choice. there are many scopes claiming bright optics and quarter inch movement and recoil proof etc. but i want to know what scope really does all it claims. thank you in advance for your time and help in this matter. this is my first post.i am a deer hunter and paper puncher as well so those are my needs.

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I have PM'ed you. Good luck.
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You have some choices to make, do you want a reticle that gives you known hold over points or do you want to dial in the adjustment. Note that the higher the magnification is the larger the front objective must be to be bright and give you a 7mm exit pupil  (be bright).  A   6x42 is a bright scope. IOR tactical 6x42 might be what you are looking for. the 10x Super Sniper is a nice scope but not as bright later in the evening as it would have a smaller exit  pupil. Still the SS is a fine scope and the glass is good. Nikon Monarch 6x42 is bright not overly expensive and the knobs can be adjusted by hand easily to dial in your correction. when you talk about an illuminated optic you are significantly increasing the price. Ex leupold Mark 4 LRT scopes. Also you can use a variable and as it gets dark dial it down to about 6x to brighten it up.  The typical scope used for hunting is a 3-9 but I really like a 4.5-14X50  with 30mm tube Leupold VXIII better than any other hunting scope.  I find that I like having the added power to evaluate game. The Boone and Crocket or the Varmit reticle give hold over and wind drift marks which is actually faster than dialing in the correction on a tactical scope.  As for tactical scopes and hunting use you should understand that the brush will snag on those large knobs. The IOR 6x42 has rather a medium size knob with screw on covers. Personally I think if you are hunting it's preferable to have a variable power and Nikon Monarch scopes seem to be a good value and some have the BDC reticle. Burris is about the only place you can get an illuminated optic at a moderate price.

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i also should have said that i was trying to stay around the $400 range but the more i look the more that seems impossible. you guys really know your stuff on here and thanks for the replies and advice i am new here but i already like it very much and i have been reading more than posting so far. thanks again.
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thanks SVD666 and urimaginaryfrnd very much for the response and advice. someone PM'd me about the nikon monarch ucc on sale for $190 off and i was wanting some feed back on that scope it seems to have all the bells and whistles i was looking for and with the money off it is in my cost range, but i had a nikon buckmaster scope before and it would not pass the box test and needed to be tapped to settle the reticle each time movement was made on the W&E if you didn't it would not move then you would make more adjustment and then a big jump in movement would happen and the movement was not 1/4 inch at 100 yards as specified on the turrets. needless to say i was not happy and i don't want to repeat that kind of crap , but the monarch ucc might be great i just don't want to find out the hard way,advice? suggestions? anyone try the box test on a monarch ucc?  i have never had a scope on a bolt gun that did what i thought it should. don't get me wrong that nikon buck master once i tapped it and set the zero at 100 yards it was on top of a savage 110 7mm remington mag that i had some sweet hand loads in some once fired brass a guy worked up for me and no lie it would put a three shot group at 100 yards clover leaf style you could cover with a nickle. off a bench with a caldwell front rest with matching rear sandbag it was a hole puncher for sure but again i wanted to be able to dial up multiple ranges on the E turret and that wasn't going to happen.
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The Super Sniper 10X is a fine choice I have the M with side focus and I have a 20x with rear focus and I like the side focus better. Cheaptrick has a 10 x with rear focus and he likes that because he is left handed. The scope is clear and sharp at all ranges but you have to turn the focus knob to focus at different distances. It's not like a 4x Leupold where you pick it up and there is no focus but everything is clear from near to far. The higher the power the more critical the focus seems to become. I really like the knobs on the SS.
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