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I'm looking for some scope advice...I'm relatively new to hunting.  Most of my experience has been with open sites on the M16.  I've got a Rem. 700 7MM ultra mag that I want to put a good scope on.  I want a scope that I can elk hunt long range 400yds with and whitetail hunt under 100yards.  I'm looking at the Nikon monarch 4x16x50 with the BDC reticle.  Any comments or suggestions? 
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I too would recommend the 2.5-10 range for the application. The 4-16 will suffice though I think it's just a bit much. Basically preference though.
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

http://www.swfa.com/pc-8764-2201-nikon-25-10x50-monarch-riflescope.aspx

Check this one out Bro.
 
That's a pretty strong suggestion. I concur.
 
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I would go with a Bushnell 6500 2.5-16x. That would have everything you wanted.  It would give you the magnification to really stretch the legs of that rounds and also give you the low power for the close up stuff.  Downside is the size and weight.  But on that rifle it will probably be nice to help tame the recoil a bit.

http://www.swfa.com/c-2172-bushnell-elite-6500-rifle-scopes.aspx

 
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All the above sound good, how about a Zeiss Conquest with the Rapid z 600 reticle...as another option...just a thought.

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what are your whitetail hunts like........ tree stand in timber...... on edges..... stalking?  What is your price range?
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Originally posted by swtucker swtucker wrote:

All the above sound good, how about a Zeiss Conquest with the Rapid z 600 reticle...as another option...just a thought.

 
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do you think the 10x magnification will be sufficient for long range??
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mostly tree stand for now...but i would like a scope that offered the versatility to do everything as good as possible.  price range is under 700.00
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i will be elk hunting in colorado in november and would like some long range capabilities in addition to the short range on the tree stand hunting.
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400 yds for an Elk, YES!  so would 9x.  If you like the BDC, it would be hard beat this scope for "best value"

http://www.swfa.com/c-2119-nikon-team-primos-riflescopes.aspx

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Originally posted by jarhead94 jarhead94 wrote:

mostly tree stand for now...but i would like a scope that offered the versatility to do everything as good as possible.  price range is under 700.00
 
How about these off the samplelist:
 
8082 Zeiss 3-12x56 Conquest 5214709908, Matte finish, #8 reticle, 30mm tube, fast focus eye piece, 1/4" moa finger adjustable and reseatable windage and elevation, close to new condition, factory certified refurbished, lifetime transferable warranty. $1,101.00 $799.95
 
9145 Zeiss 4.5-14x44 Conquest 5214309920, Matte finish, Z-plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, light ring marks $875.00 $599.95
 
8664 Kahles 3-10x50 Helia CL Multizero 51724, Matte finish, , 4A reticle, side focus, fast focus eye piece, Allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, light ring marks. $1,315.00 $749.95
8235 Kahles 4-12x52 Helia CL Multizero 51733, Matte finish, plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, close to new condition. $1,392.00 $799.95
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If I was looking in the budget range that you are, my first choice if you like ballistic reticles would be this.
 
 
I do have to agree with tip69 though. For the money the Nikon Team Primos is a very good buy. I have one of these too, and while not as impressed with it as I am the Zeiss, it was a lot less money too. As far as 9x being enough, I shoot a 10" steel swinging target at 600 yds. with my Zeiss at 10x.
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29, what's that reticle like in "low light"  it looks to me like it might be hard to see?
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If you want new go for your Nikon choice ... Nikon monarch 4x16x50 with the BDC reticle  if you don't mind buying used that 
9145 Zeiss 4.5-14x44 Conquest 5214309920, Matte finish, Z-plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, light ring marks $875.00 $599.95

 

Tip69 recommended is very good .



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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

29, what's that reticle like in "low light"  it looks to me like it might be hard to see?
 
I have used mine for deer for 2 seasons now, and can always see the whole reticle long before legal shooting light. Trouble is here that is only 1/2 hour before sunrise and 1/2 hour after sunset. The scope appears to be bright enough that the reticle is thick enough to see.
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I was referring to the Zeiss one....... is that the one you're talking about?
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10-4 tip, Rapid-Z seems to do the trick, so long as you are not hunting at night. I can see all the markings for hold over way before the game warden will allow me to shoot. The small lines on the outsides used for ranging may be a different story. I never paid much attention to them, as I just pull out the Geovids. Much faster, and my math isn't that good.Big%20Smile
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Great, thanks
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