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Hey everyone out there I am going to purchase a Marlin xl7 in 25-06. I am only 14 and on a limited budget and this will be my first rifle.  I am looking for a scope to go on it for under $200. I will probably use it for deer and varmint hunting. Right now I am looking at the Vortex Viper 2-7x32 for $169, the Vortex diamondback 3-9-40 for $189, the Redfield revolution 3-9-40 for $159, and the Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 for $119. I am also in search of some rings and I am interested in the Burris signature zee rings. All of you opinions will be greatly apreciated.

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Welcome


You're on the right track with the Viper. I have the Diamondback and it's a pretty good scope, but the Viper line is a cut above. 


The Burris at $119 is a good deal, but the Viper at $169 is a GREAT deal. 



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Yup, viper.

Nice to hear from a sensible 14 year old.

Good luck Leonard!
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Hey Leonard, I suggest reading my post on scope for Tikka 30-06.  I didn't have exactly the same options you are looking for, but I was on the same budget and found the Vortex mentioned was hands down the best for the $.  Good luck and be responsible.  That's no BB gun your messin' with.
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Welcome to OT!
That is an excellent choice of rifle! I also commend you on your choice of rings! of the scopes on your list,
you really cant go wrong with any of them either, but the viper is an awesome scope for the money, and the one I'd personally pick. You have obviously done your homework on this. good luck, and happy hunting!
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The viper 2-7 BDC is the best of the choices you mentioned. Talley lightweight ringmounts would be my prefered mount/ring
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Ok thanks everyone for posting you replies so quickly and i have one more question. The burris rings only come in medium and i was wondering if using medium rings on a 32mm objective would make a difference as opposed to using some other kind of rings in low. What do you all think about it?
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As urimaginaryfrnd said above, the talley light weights in low would be an excellent set up! when you call SWFA to order your scope, tell them what rifle and scope you are using, and they will hook you up with the best rings. They are incredibly knowledgeable and will not steer you wrong.
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i like burris rings, but if you mount any scope to high its going to give you trouble. 
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Are these the talley rings you are talking about? http://swfa.com/Talley-Lightweight-Aluminum-1-Scopemount-P2840.aspx Now I admit that I am really new at this but wouldn't steel rings hold up better than aluminum? And which reticle do you guys recomend for the viper?
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you would be pretty surprised with the strength of those mounts. dont take this the wrong way ( cause i dont mean any offense) but the 25-06 is hardly considered a hard recoiling rifle. if you like the talley's go for it.

id just get the standard duplex if it were me.
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I have a Burris FFII scope and love it. It's by no means a bad choice, but from what I've read it seems like a Viper is a much better choice at its current price. That being said, the Burris Signature Zee rings are a great choice. They are my favorite rings I've ever used. I love them. That being said, the one 32mm scope I've mounted, I thought was perfect with medium rings, but it can be different for each rifle, and also for personal preference. Low rings just put the scope too low for me on most rifles. I like medium rings. 

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Oh i did't mean to imply that the 25-06 is hard recoiling i was just wondering if the steel would be better long term but i guess it doesn't really matter except on larger calibers. I like the talleys but i am still leaning towards burris because of the inserts eliminating the need for lapping, the option to compensate for elevation, and they are slightly less expensive. My only concern with them is that they only come in mediums Sad
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you've got a few things going for you with the 2x7, you will have excellent long eye relief so even if the scope is a little high i think in that case you will be ok, it may get a little hairy at 7x. i like burris rings, if you feel comfortable with them i would buy them.
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Another vote for the Viper 2-7 x 32 in BDC here... just took delivery of the scope from SWFA this weekend. I got out my Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 and put them side by side for a little comparo.

First thing that surprised me was that the glass is very very close in quality, but the Conquest still has the better glass which you can notice at the higher powers. The Viper has more of a blue hue to it and whites look very white (looking at snow in the forest behind my house). The Conquest on the other hand has a slightly softer image -- like the glass deadens the snow's brightness just a tad to make the image more pleasing...almost like an ever so slight yellow hue. And the Conquest's darker thicker reticle is better in my opinion.
 
Eye position sensitivity is okay for both scopes, but I still have yet to find anyone better than Leupold in this department. Why is it so hard for companies to get this right? To not have to have yourself perfectly positioned every single time to get a solid full image through the ocular??
 
On the other hand, I prefer the Viper's metal caps on the elevation / windage caps vs the plastic ones on the Conquest as well as the knobs themselves have really solid tactile clicks. That was another welcome surprise.
 
So yes I'm going to keep my $400 Conquest, but the $169 Viper is a heck of a deal. Buy it and don't look back.
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Also for hunting with this scope would it be a good idea to get some Butler Creek lens covers or are they not needed?
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Get either flip up caps or a neoprene scope cover.  I use caps on some rifles, neoprene on others.  They both protect the lenses, but I like how the neoprene protect the whole scope.  You either have to flip up the covers or pull off the neoprene cover when you want to shoot.

Harder to lose the flip-ups though.  I had a problem with losing stuff when I was 14.
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Ya i agree that the neoprene cover would be easy to lose but i also like it protecting the whole scope. If it were you which would you get?
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if you get the viper it comes with a set of see through scope covers
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Welcome Leornard, Both the Viper and Burris would be great choices for your rifle, and I use standard zee rings on all of my rifles and have had great success with them. The one caveat I might mention with the viper is a lot of 2-7's are pretty short when it comes to tube lenght so you probably should measure your mount spacing before making your scope decision as with a long action you may have to use extension rings or a 1 pc. base to get the viper mounted to suit your eye relief. Nice rifle bye the way. Good Luck
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Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

Welcome Leornard, Both the Viper and Burris would be great choices for your rifle, and I use standard zee rings on all of my rifles and have had great success with them. The one caveat I might mention with the viper is a lot of 2-7's are pretty short when it comes to tube lenght so you probably should measure your mount spacing before making your scope decision as with a long action you may have to use extension rings or a 1 pc. base to get the viper mounted to suit your eye relief. Nice rifle bye the way. Good Luck

good point, i had to use leupold rev. std mounts to get mine to fit on my .375H&H
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

if you get the viper it comes with a set of see through scope covers


To be clear, those included covers Pyro referred to are not the flip up style. 
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So will the one piece base included with the marlin work to mount the viper?

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