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Looking to purchase T3 tactical 24` in 300 win mag. Primary uses are going to be deer hunting and target shooting 400 meters and plus.
I`m looking at Trijicon 2.5-10x56mm AccuPoint 30mm with Mil-Dot Crosshair w/ Green Dot (900$) or Zeiss 3.5-10x50mm Conquest Rapid Z 600 (850$).

I am new into big scope shooting and will have to learn a lot about numerous factors affecting ballistics, but as far as these two scopes go, which one would you buy and why?

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There is a lot of love here for the Trijicon, but I have always been a Zeiss fan for optical clarity, customer service, and I really think their Rapid Z reticles are damn nice.

 
I used a stock Conquest 3-9x40 with #4 German reticle over in Namibia last year and it performed wonderfully in all conditions, including at night.  My PH (Professional Hunter) and his father, both VERY well-respected and with lots of experience, thought it was the best scope they'd ever seen in a long time, and I ended up gifting it to my PH after the hunt.  He uses it EVERY day in very tough conditions and it has held up like a charm.
 
Here is a detailed hunt report, pics, videos, conditions, ranges, etc. to give you a run-down.
 
I used a Tikka Whitetail Hunter M695 in .30-06 - one of the finest rifles I've ever shot, and I own all Tikkas for my bolt guns.
 
 
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Between those two, I'd get the Zeiss.  Optically, those 2 scopes are pretty comparable.  As big a fan as I am of the Accupoint scopes, 50mm is where I personally draw the line on max objective size.  I don't care for the objective bell of the scope being wider than the rifle it's mounted on.  Also, I don't like the fact the eye relief varies so much from low to high power on that particular Accupoint scope, even though it is quite nice optically.
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+1 on 50mm or less objectives.
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I would take a look at the Bushnell Elite 6500 in 2.5X16X42MM. Wonderful optics, 6.5X+ magnification, Rainguard, durable, and will handle the recoil of any caliber.
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Why is it that most people seem to hate +50mm scopes? I thought the wider the optical lens the more light is gathers thus giving you clearer and crispier field of view. What`s wrong with 56mm scope. Does the diameter size in any way negatively affects the scope performance&precision?

Also, what are your comments about Trijicon 3-9x40mm accupoint, mildot with green crosshair
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Having owned and/or shot both scopes (with different reticles than those listed), I'd be inclined to buy the Accupoint: good glass, illumination, 30mm, no plastic turrets, and only $806 from SWFA.
Lest I be hanged for heresy, I like the Conquest too, good glass, good service, but my money would go for the Trijicon.


Tikka makes a great rifle, I own a few and have owned several more.  My son's first rifle was a T3 in .308, topped with an Accupoint.

Your rifle will be big, heavy, and loud - but it should be accurate.  I hope you will be shooting from supported positions.

And try to hit the deer in the head, a 190-gr. round moving at almost 3000FPS does real damage to the meat, I know from experience.
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And 50+mm objectives are OK on large rifles, and yours is a large rifle.  For smaller guns, they ain't great, they throw off the balance and tend to snag on things at the worst possible time.
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I think either would give you great optics for the money.  On the T3 tactical, i wouldn't worry too much about the low profile - the 50mm might give you a slightly better comfort level when shooting.  The conquest would be just as bright as the trijicon on 7 or 8 power, which you can shoot a long long ways at that magnification w/ good glass. 

The T3 tactical is a wonderful gun - great action and triggers.
 
Good luck!!
 
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I own a Tikka T3 Super Varmint which is pretty much the same thing as the Tactical and unless you're a big healthy boy I doubt you're going to want to be doing too much backwoods trekking with it. But if you really are then I'd look at that Bushnell 6500 somebody suggested.


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Nice rig, not a stalker, obviously.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Nice rig, not a stalker, obviously.

Not unless you're an NFL lineman in your spare time.
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Well, I did use to be a lineman in Canadian forces some years ago. Of course, I`m no longer at the best shape, but I do not plan to be stalking anyways. We will most probably be static hunters; find a nice spot, camouflage, put bait and wait for deer.
I like the T3 a lot, especially 24` barrel. I`ll put the muzzle brake on it, it should somewhat reduce the recoil of the .300 win mag, though I`m not very much muzzle sensitive anyways.

Figure, I`ll go with Trijicon, either 3-9x40 or 2.5-10x56. Zeiss is a good scope but I like the battery free illumination on the Trijicon. Seems to be good quality glass too.
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nice rig, sholling -
 
what caliber? and how's she shoot?
 
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A recommendation:  if you are not recoil sensitive, I'd stay away from putting a brake on it - or plan on investing in very good hearing protection.

Recoil on a heavy 300WM ain't bad, especially if you aren't sensitive.  You know that with a nice deer in the scope, you don't feel it recoil anyway.

A brake complicates things, allot.  The good ones are very loud, and once your hearing is gone, it's gone for good.

Enjoy the set-up, you will like the Accupoint.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

A recommendation:  if you are not recoil sensitive, I'd stay away from putting a brake on it - or plan on investing in very good hearing protection.

Recoil on a heavy 300WM ain't bad, especially if you aren't sensitive.  You know that with a nice deer in the scope, you don't feel it recoil anyway.

A brake complicates things, allot.  The good ones are very loud, and once your hearing is gone, it's gone for good.

Enjoy the set-up, you will like the Accupoint.
 
Great advice here - get a Limbsaver pad for your stock and get used to the recoil.  The brake is a BAD idea.
 
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Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

nice rig, sholling -
 
what caliber? and how's she shoot?
 
J

Thank you. Shes a .223 and shoots like a laser. Amazingly accurate, but shes a Tikka so that's just expected.

Originally posted by greywolf greywolf wrote:

Great advice here - get a Limbsaver pad for your stock and get used to the recoil.  The brake is a BAD idea.
 
I'd start with just a Limbsaver. I have a T3 Lite (6.4lbs) in 300WM and it's brutal, and with a Limbsaver only semi-brutal. But the extra weight of the Tactical combined with a Limbsaver may be all you need.  I honestly wouldn't buy another 300WM but that's not my call - it's what you have  your heart set on. Anyway the tactical's barrel comes prethreaded and you can always add a break later if you need one.
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I wasn`t going to put the muzzle brake because of recoil but for the added accuracy. I`ve never shot .300WM before, but I`ve been told it has some strong recoil, not as bad as .338 but still. So, the reason to put a brake on is to minimise the vertical recoil and therefore have better accuracy at the long shot. Maybe this is not necessary?
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Originally posted by principsd principsd wrote:

I wasn`t going to put the muzzle brake because of recoil but for the added accuracy. I`ve never shot .300WM before, but I`ve been told it has some strong recoil, not as bad as .338 but still. So, the reason to put a brake on is to minimise the vertical recoil and therefore have better accuracy at the long shot. Maybe this is not necessary?
 
It is not necessary.  A tuning setup, like a BOSS or even (though some would disagree) a Limbsaver De-Resonator would help more.  And if you can get one (legally) or afford it, a quality sound suppressor - but I think a Tikka T3 tactical is so accurate that most shooters will never truly approach its capabilities, regardless of the gadgetry on it.
 
 
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Originally posted by principsd principsd wrote:

I wasn`t going to put the muzzle brake because of recoil but for the added accuracy. I`ve never shot .300WM before, but I`ve been told it has some strong recoil, not as bad as .338 but still. So, the reason to put a brake on is to minimise the vertical recoil and therefore have better accuracy at the long shot. Maybe this is not necessary?



Odds are not good that a brake will increase accuracy.  I too have owned the T3 lite in 300WM and put a very effective brake on it - and sometimes regretted it.

Forget the brakes, shoot the gun, if accuracy is lacking (which I doubt it will be) there are a few things to check before you install a brake.
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For some idea as to the accuracy of the Tikka, check out my Namibian Safari thread in the Hunting section Cool
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What is BOSS setup?

I`ll surely put a limbsaver on it, but I`m now thinking to go .308 win instead. I`ve been at the local gun store today and ammo price difference is just huge. 35$ for box of 20 bullets for .308 and almost 70$ for a box of 20 cartridges in .300 win mag. Other things have been put into my consideration as well. Since, I`ll be mostly (95%) of the time hunting deer, .300 might be way overkill. Quebec and Ontario will be my hunting ground, as there are no grizly bears around here, no need for such a strong calibre rifle. And some say .308 is very much accurate.

Suppresors in any form are not legal in Canada. If cought with one, one loses his licence pretty much on the spot and will be in a lot of sh*t.
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BOSS is the Browning setup for a "tuned" screw on device on the end of the muzzle.  Works very well to "tune" the barrel harmonics for better groups - finds that "sweet spot" in the harmonics.
 
I think it is mostly only available on Browning rifles, though some gunsmiths may have modified versions for other rifles.
 
I'd try the Limbsaver De-resonator first, though - that is if you even need it in the first place.
 
DEFINITELY consider .308 instead of .300 WM - out to 600+ yards it can be very accurate and hard-hitting.  Past that it is still accurate though may start to lose punch on larger targets.
 
Cheaper ammo, good selection of bullets, and won't burn out your barrel as fast if you shoot a lot.
 
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I would recommend .308 over 300WM for deer, for several reasons - among them, availability and price of ammo.


A .308 on a deer is good to go out to about 600 yards, no problems there.  The truck to hunting, you either know or will soon find, is round placement; and a well-placed .308 ends most encounters quickly and quietly.


BOSS is a Browning thing and I have seen a few Browning rifles tighten up adjusting the thing, but those that got better were piss-poor before the adjustment was made - I wouldn't call it an accurizing device as much as an un-screwing-up device.


If my experience with Tikka is any indication, you will be very pleased with the accuracy.


In .308, it will be more manageable, cheaper to shoot, and still plenty powerful.  And you'll have very little problem finding .308.
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Wise words from two experienced hunters. I'm too old to shoot at 600 yds with a 300 WM cannon, but with a 308 I can feel pretty confident taking a shot up to 350 yds.  The 308 has a lot of upside and very little downside. If you are concerned you will be undergunned in a few situations, try a 30-06 and you can shoot up to 220 grs.
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