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I need some opinions on power, reticle, and parallax adjustment... 
Here is my problem. I am getting a rifle for myself and I will use it for paper only. Ranges are 100yd+, maybe up to 500yd or so if I can find a range. No hunting.
However, my brother will use it for hunting (deer, elk, boar, I think), not right away, but in 2-3 years. I am looking for a scope that would suit his game mainly and be just "good enough" for me. I know this is confusing. I like the idea of a Zeiss Conquest.
Hence, the questions:
1. What would be a good power range for these tasks? (3-9x, 3.5-10x, or 4.5-14x?)
2. Reticle choice: the Rapid Z 800 looks versatile to me (range estimation and holdovers, and some  windage compensation, too). Any opinions? Maybe mil-dot?
3. How important is parallax adjustment feature? I know that all the Conquest scopes are parallax-free at 100 yards, however I read somewhere that scopes w/ Rapid Z are parallax-free at 300 yards. Can anyone confirm this?

Opinions are welcome.
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I have found the Rapid-Z reticles to be very versitile for hunting, and long range target shooting. (I shoot steel, not paper competition type stuff) The range estimating works well, and is simple, although I usually use a laser. A standard 3-9x40 would work for most hunting ranges, although with a rapid-z 600, the marks will work out at about 7x. This may be lacking a bit for smaller targets at 500yds. The 4.5-14x44 comes in a Z 800 and Z1000. The Z 800 acually works out pretty well for a .308, but then you have to deal with a side focus on a hunting rifle. It's up to your preference really. If you are proficient with mil-dots, that is an option too. I use the 4.5-14 Z800 on my hunting rifle, and it works great for me, but they are all fine. I believe you are correct about the parallax being different on the Rapid-Z scopes unless you get a side focus.
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I would think the 3.5-10X might be the best option. Most shots at deer and boar are at fairly close range and even elk. Not being able to go lower than 4.5 could be a real handicap in dense brush.
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Pardon my newbie questions, but I can't make an educated decision based on my experience or lack of it: I've never had a rifle/scope before.

1. Is there any significant difference between 3-9x and 3.5-10x? What would be preferable? from different posts I've figured that 4.5 would be too much for hunting.

2. What would be better: 40mm, 44mm or 50mm objective lens? I guess, I am looking for a compromise between light transmission and ability to mount the scope as low as possible. I would prefer large objective lens (from the light transmission perspective), but maybe it makes sense to go 40mm or 44mm because the scope will be sitting lower?
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Tikka T3 Lite is, in my opinion, the best deal going in rifles.  Mine is a 300WM and it has now taken many (MANY) hogs, a few deer, and a bobcat (long story, he had it come'in though!)

For your stated purposes, I would recommend a 3-9.  It will be great at hunting ranges (close and 300+) and will work fine on the range.  As this is your first rifle and scope, I wouldn't worry too much about the 500-yard performance factor as it will be a non-issue for awhile.
Most scopes over 10X have a parallax adjustment, another thing to adjust, another reason the 3-9 is a better option.


Conquest is a good deal.  better scopes can be had, all are more expensive.

My criticism of ballistic reticules is that they are not exact till you put the rounds down range to be sure where they hit.  Don't mount the scope, zero at 100, and assume the 500-yard hash will be dead-nutz at 500 yards because the little sticker says so.  With time and effort, they can be very useful, but it is an unknown till you make it known - not as simple as any scope maker insinuates.

What is your budget?

lastly, take the rings that came with the Tikka and toss them, IMMEDIATELY!  Don't keep them, you will eventually use them, and they are the worst crap rings I have ever had the great misfortuen of mounting.  For that gun, I recommend Talleys or Warnes.  Tallesy are lighter weight and easier to mount.  Warnes are all but bullet-proof, and they mount in a vertical fashion - so not easy to square up the first few times.) 


Tikka's also have a flat-top to the receiver, mounting a scope with a feel-gauge works very well on Tikkas - and assures you a reticule that is exactly aligned to the receiver.

Good luck, it is agreat gun and will serve you and your brother well.
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Thanks guys!

Sounds like 3-9x would be a better choice than 3.5-10x for hunting.
The tip about the rings is really appreciated.
The budget... Well, unlimited. However since it's the first rifle/scope I am not sure what I need. This will be a "trial" set up. I read somewhere that the scope should cost as much the rifle it will be sitting on.

Having said this, the question about the objective lens size remains. 40/44/50mm?
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Well in my opinion the 40-44 is pretty much the same, as the mounting height will be very close, and both should fit in low rings. The 50 mm will not gain you much in a 3-9 configuration except at the top of the power range. You will have a 5.55 mm exit pupil at 9x vs. a 4.44 with a 40 mm. By turning the scope down to about 7.5 in low light you would have about the same brightness. I am not a fan of the 50mm on a hunting rifle due to the bulk, and mounting height. However this is personnal preference, and some will tell you to go for it.
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You want your scope as low as possible so you can get a proper cheek weld on your stock.  If you get a large belled scope then it makes your scope sit higher which does not a allow a good cheek weld which means shot to shot consistency is out the door. 

Look at the pic Rancid put up and you can see how low his scope is.  He can get a very good tight cheek weld on his stock which will allow him perfect consistency from shot to shot.  Consistency equals accuracy. 

Now take a look at this pic and see how high the scope is because of the huge objective.  You can kiss a good cheek weld goodbye on this rifle.

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Great. Now comes a personal question for Rancid: what exactly do you have on the rifle?
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I believe that is his Swarovski American 3-10x42  http://www.swfa.com/pc-8616-278-swarovski-3-10x42-american-riflescope.aspx

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It's not always true, but scopes with smaller objectives tend to be shorter. Compactness is a virtue. I've come around to the "scope cost >= rifle cost" argument but only because I've outgrown (or hope to outgrow) the capabilities of scopes I've had. You could spend a lot of money on a scope only to find that you don't enjoy it or long-range shooting or it just doesn't fit you and the rifle. I'd bet you'd have little trouble reselling a Zeiss Conquest 3x9.
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