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Looking for a scope to set my 10FLP up for  500-700 yards. Found a couple that interest me. Can I get a professional opinion on them or other RECOMENDATIONS.

1. Springfield Armory 3rd Generation 4-14  56mm AO Illminated Rangefinding cal. for .308

2. Zeiss 4.5 - 14  50mm Conquest Mil-Dot.

I have no knowledge on Springfield rangefinder and don't want to much trash in field of view.


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I'd go with the Conquest.
Springfield scopes don't have much of a fan base here, friend.

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Springfield scopes seem to have a pretty spotty reputation.  Besides, they are not being made any more and the availability of warranty repair (if needed) is very questionable.

 

Conquest scopes are very good.  As for the recommendations, that all depends on how much money you are willing to spend. 

 

Bushnell Elite 4200 is very good and costs less. 

 

Burris Black DIamond and XTR scopes are a little cheaper than the Conquest and have a reputation for being very rugged (nice glass to boot).

 

For about the same money as the Conquest, you can get an IOR 4-14x50, which I would probably take over the Conquest (might be a close call; I have not been able to compare these two side by side).

 

See if you can look at the scopes with your own eyes; that's usually most helpful.  Then look at how much you are willing to spend.

 

I would probably go with an IOR, but other scope above are good also.

 

Ilya

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Good advise from koshkin.

 

But, I have compared the Conquest to the IOR models(2), and came away thinking that the Conquest is superior.

At least the Conquest has better eye relief than the IOR, that I'm sure of.

 

The IOR has a kick ass reticle in it's favor though. The MP8 is outstanding!!

 

Do you have a certain budget in mind??

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     just got back from gander mountain. took my ior 2.5-10x42 illuminated mp-8 in to see how its resolution compares with the zeiss conquest and swarovski in the same configurations. was looking at getting a zeiss in 1 inch cause I didn't want to waist my armalite 1 inch mounts sinse the IOR that I have is 30mm and the zeiss I am looking at is 1 inch tube.

 

     I wasn't worried about getting out to 1000 yards sinse the zeiss has total 68 inch MOA.I would just set it 18 clicks up from bottom and have plenty to spare for the 421 inch drop at 1000 yards for 308 168 grain bullet. 

 

     setting the scopes on a couple of firearms books I aimed them at whatever small writing I could find on distant objects and concluded that all three were to similar to distiguish any difference in resolution of the letters unlike the comparison with the zeiss and the leupold vx-111 where the zeiss was quite a bit better on clarity at distant lettering.

     next measured eye relief at largest magnification with the conquest having about 1/2 inch more than IOR and SWar which were the same. Of course the IOR had at lest 3 inches , more than enough unless your shooting a cannon or your neaderthal brow is getting in the way and then I would suggest grabbing a club and getting back to basics.

 

     haven't been able to do a box test yet so I am unable to see how reliable the adjustments are but the turrets have a very precise  audible click and feel to them. and that reticle is amazing once the sun goes down.

the build quality also appears exceptional.

     in short, these two stack up so close the only difference I can see is the recticle and the tube size. the zeiss in the 4-14x50 which is the confuguration of my next scope is like 8 bucks more than the IOR in similar configuration but with the IOR you get the 30mm tube if it makes a difference to you and the mp-8 recticle which to me is a deal closer.

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Originally posted by c.j. c.j. wrote:

Next, measured eye relief at largest magnification with the conquest having about 1/2 inch more than IOR and SWar which were the same. Of course the IOR had at lest 3 inches , more than enough unless your shooting a cannon or your neaderthal brow is getting in the way and then I would suggest grabbing a club and getting back to basics.

 

c.j.:

The eye relief on my 2.5-10 Tactical RFP MP8 wasn't 3". I had it mounted on a .300 Win mag. and finally got rid of it after too many "close encounters".  

And I did have some other seasoned shooters try her out too and they wouldn't even shoot it again after the eye piece got to close.

 

Maybe it was just my scope........ 

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Good report C.J.,

I am glad you guys told me about the IOR and the MP-8 illuminated racticals.

I going to stay tune and see if anymore guys have anything to add.


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In my experience IOR has been somewhat optimistic with their eye relief specifications.  I have always been very impressed with their glass though.

 

With eye relief, it also depends on whether you measure it to the ocular housing or to the ocular lens (which is somewhat recessed).  Anyhow, the only IOR scopes that I would have no problem putting on a kicker are the hunting 4x32 and the 6x42.

 

I am very impressed with the MP-8 and CQB reticles though.

 

ILya

 

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    I measured from the ocular housing on each of the scopes sinse that is what is going to tag you if you get tagged. My IOR ocular housing was screwed out about 1/2 inch out sinse that is where the recticles where in focus for me. the guy at gander mountain even mentioned that but there was nothing I could do about it. the Zeiss and the Swar reticles were focused well right off the shell with the ocular housing close to the scope body.
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Here is the scoop:  the 10 x M3 has 75MOA internal elevationand 52MOA windage,  M3 one click is one MOA elevation and windage one click is 1/2 MOA this is a battle scope for quick correction turn the knob to 3 you are on at 300 turn the knob to 7 you are on at 700 no guess work for set bulllet loads it comes with cams for .308, 300WM, .223  this scope will drive a target shooter nuts you cant fine tune it closer than an inch but on things that are alive its great.  The 8.5-25 has 75MOA elevation and 70MOA windage and is 1/4MOA clicks.  The 4.5-14 has 100MOA elevation and 100MOA windage and is 1/4 MOA clicks. With M1 you can fine tune the point of impact.   While I am a firm believer in Buying American if I only had the choice between Springfield Armory and Zeiss I would have to say Zeiss but if you ever have a problem you can get a Leupold fixed here in America where they are made. There are lots of good scopes out there but when I was a kid you had Leupold Redfield Weaver and Tasco and you didn't hear much about anything else and Leupold was the best then and I think it is still the best. I dont really like the 56mm objectives of Nightforce and Springfield. There is a reason the military uses that Leupold 10x M3. If that is out of your price range then buy a  SS10X42M  (click me) SS10X42M  (It may be a glorified Tasco but it's a hell of a good one.)

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A lot of agencies are looking elsewhere than Leupold.  They are having a lot of trouble with canted reticles and tracking problems.  I've never been a Leupy guy, I'd suggest looking elsewhere.  You could get the SS10x42 as mentioned above.  Best scope for the money when SWFA gets them in stock.  Also take a look at the new version of the XOTIC when they come out.  FFP mildot 4-16x50 with all the changes the USMC snipers wanted in a scope.  XOTIC lost the contract for the USMC but they made all the changes recommended by the guys who put their life behind their scopes and are going to re-release them.

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