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I’d appreciate input on a great scope and mount combination for a Remington 700 5R 300 Win mag rifle (my first center fire).  I just purchased the rifle; it has a heavy 26” SS barrel and hefty synthetic stock.  They are a limited production product know for excellent precision.  I plan on using it primarily for AZ or western KS elk and deer hunting, respectively, and the needed range time to become proficient up to 300 yards.  I’d also like to try my hand at hitting gongs at 1K yards if the only local (Phoenix) range I know of provides that, or while visiting the family farm in KS.  I’ve not hunted large game before, but being from rural KS, retired from the Army (chair-borne medical job), and lots of high-end air rifle time, I consider myself a good shot.  I chose a heavy rifle to help manage recoil and for a bit of tacticool.

With that bit of information, I’m presently leaning toward a Leica 3.5-14X42 ER scope with an IBS G7 reticle.  I’m also considering a LaRue P-rail for a long action 700 with 20 MOA and their ultralow rings.  I believe that combination would work great and look OK.  Avoiding hassles during hunting is prioritized over tacticool looks.

If anyone has experience with that general type of rifle/scope combination, I’d appreciate their input on the sanity of that plan or other recommendations.  I’d like to stay under $2K on the scope because I can’t envision the need to spend any more.

Thanks!

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That is a good scope, I am testing a 3-12x50 with the same reticle.
If you are looking for a MOA based reticle to make corrections with and don't want to dial them in it is a good choice but be aware that it is on the thin side so for low light use it is not ideal.


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Thanks ccoker.  I'll look into the 50 mm scope (ER i) you're testing and consider other reticles.  That one had not come up in my surfing before.  Shifting the 3.5x magnification range downward and upping the diameter a bit might be good for both the hunting I might really be doing and aesthetics.
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Welcome to Optics Talk. Those 5R's are typically sweet shooters. Good shooting! 
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Look at the Swarovskis like the Z5 with 3.5-18 with the ballistic turret and 4w reticle.
I got a Z6 2.5-15x44 BT/4W in yesterday and like the setup.
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My personal choice would be this one -
Swarovski 3.5-18x44 Z5 Riflescope Swarovski 3.5-18x44 Z5 Riflescope
Stock # - SWA59764
  • Matte
  • 4W
  • 1"
  • Ballistic Turret
  • Side Focus
$1,579.00 
then get a custom dial from swarovski made to fit on the BT that is better suited for range work.
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that will do it!
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If you want to go with a 30mm scope the La Rue base and LT719 quick detach Low rings are a very nice choice and I have two pairs of them that I like very much.  I dont think that Badger Ordnance or La Rue does any better on making a base than Talley does and the Talley base is much less expensive.
http://swfa.com/Remington-C3304.aspx  link to talley bases.
A word of caution about a Plus 20 moa base.  If a scope has a lot of internal adjustment like the Super Sniper 5-20x50 and some of the others a  plus 20 moa base can be a great thing but you must decide which scope you will use first or at least consider how much internal adjustment the scope has before you select it.  Example   some scopes have only 40 or 50 moa of internal adjustment with a 1 in tube and half of that is above with half below in theory but in actual use how it mounts and sits in comparison to where the bore is pointed can cause a problem.  I once bought a very expensive scope that was designed with the scope to be mounted on a flat base not a plus 20 what I found when I mounted it on a plus 20 moa base is that my shots at 100 yds were 20 inches high when I was as low as I could adjust the scope so I had to change scopes. 
Selecting the right scope for this type of rife can be a difficult choice and if a guy was only using it to hunt
a simple fixed 6X42 makes a great hunting scope when the center crosshair is zeroed at 200 you will be about two inches high at 100 and the dot below center should be pretty close at 300 next at 400 next at 500  so very workable for hunting distances and a very brigth optic that is moderately sized with no knobs to get out of adjustment
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope Long Range Duplex Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66820
  • Matte
  • Long Range Duplex
  • 1"
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
$449.95
 Another possibe optic that is a true tactical optic is this U.S Optics scope which is fairly moderately sized compared to a lot of other tactical scopes which tend to be larger than one wants to take hunting. I know you give up something on the power range here but the glass is very nice the knobs are low profile and user friendly.
 
U.S. Optics 1.8-10x37 MR-10 30mm Riflescope U.S. Optics 1.8-10x37 MR-10 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - USOMR8MIL
  • Parallax Control: T-Pal Left Side Parallax/Focus
  • Tube: 30mm Standard
  • Color: Matte Black Type III Hard Anodizing
  • Eyepiece: Lo Profile - Rapid Focus
  • Includes: USO Flip Open Covers
  • Reticle: Mil-Scale GAP (MIL)
  • Digital Push Button Illumination (Red)
  • Knob - Elevation: EREK 1/10 MIL
  • Knob - Windage: US#1 1/10 MIL
$2,223.95 
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One other thought since you are talking about LaRue  LT 719 quick release low rings they do actually come back on target and you could have two different optics in two sets of rings and switch out as needed one could be a high end hunting scope of your choice of course you would have to get the ring reducers to take them from 30mm to 1 inch and the second set of LT719  you could run something like this which is really quite adequate and very reasonalby priced for a long range tactical seope.  And no its not the scope that some of these we have mentioned but I have one of these and really like it.  
SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS16X42MQ
  • Matte Finish
  • Patented Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm Tube
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • .10 Mrad
$299.95 
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Negative on medium Talleys......LOWS. Even with BC caps, lows will clear. 
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Thanks to all for the great suggestions!  I was swayed by Vortex Optics' warranty.  I elected to order a Viper PST 4-16X50 FFP Mil-Mil.
 
My box from LaRue with the rail and mounts came today. Am anxious to receive the scope, bipod (Harris swivel), and biathlon sling (TAB Elite), put everything together, and head to the range.
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Originally posted by Dawgdoc Dawgdoc wrote:

   I was swayed by Vortex Optics' warranty. 


I dare bet you are going to need to use it too.  Wink  It gets used for the PSTs quite often
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Originally posted by Dawgdoc Dawgdoc wrote:

   I was swayed by Vortex Optics' warranty. 


I dare bet you are going to need to use it too.  Wink  It gets used for the PSTs quite often

Really? Why do you say that? 
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I have just read about a lot of returns and issues over the years with them.  Seen a few go down in classes and such.  They are no SWFA SS, thats for sure. 
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Ah..I did not know this. 
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Add these and you will be glad you did
Field Density Altitude Compensator FDAC Field Density Altitude Compensator FDAC
Stock # - FDACMILSPECXR
  • Displays elevation & windage firing solutions using density altitude
  • Includes 12 ballistic cards for ..300WM & .338LM in most common velocity range
  • Correction in MOA or MILS
$64.95
Mil-Dot Master Mil-Dot Master
Stock # - MD1
  • Estimating Target Size
  • Determining Range to Target
  • Correcting for Bullet Drop
  • Correcting for Wind Drift
  • Correcting for Uphill/Downhill
  • Correcting Correction to Mil (holdover)
  • Correcting Correction to MOA (sight adjustment)
$29.95 
SWFA SS-TAC 30mm Bubble Level With 1 SWFA SS-TAC 30mm Bubble Level With 1" Inserts
Stock # - SSOML
  • 30mm with 1" inserts
$39.95 
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SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Illuminated Mil Quad SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQI
  • Patented First Focal Plane Illuminated Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,499.95   
SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQ
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,299.95 
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Ihad a vortex Viper PST for about two days and sent it back and went with a second SS 5-20x50.  I didnt find anything wrong with it but it seemed to be really light weight for this type of scope so I just was not sure it would hold up long term.  I do have two of the no longer made 2-7 Viper scopes and have had good service from them.  I think the scopes Ive mentioned are all very solid choices.   If you recieve the scope and do not mount it or damage it you can return it and select again if you so desire.  You will be out the shipping cost but that is just part of the price you pay to get things right and get set up.
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That Leica ER is one hell of a nice scope. I have the 2.5-10 on my 300 WM and it has become my new favorite all around scope.

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