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Urimaginaryfrnd,
Do you think somebody might have used his scope for a hammer?
and than whined about it to God and Country?
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Originally posted by rootmanslim rootmanslim wrote:

Save your self a lot of time. there is ONLY one scope for an MZ  

 

yea yea yea right

 

Give me a break - there are lots of scopes that work well on a muzzleloader. While Im glad that you are satisfied with your Leupold  --- Understand that people have different styles of hunting. Some stalk deer in heavy brush needing lower power scopes. Some set up blinds and ladder stands and shoot them at distance needing more magnification. I have a VXIII 4.5-14x50 on one musket and a Nikon Omega 3-9x40 on another musket and a 2.5x Tasco on another musket so dont bother blinding us with your brilliance or baffeling us with your BS.  The correct power of scope depends on how you hunt. And what you put on the rifle often depends on what you can afford to spend or what you have laying around. 

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UMMMMMMMMMM,,WELLLLLLLLL,,at the risk of being flamed for having my own opinion,,,,,,,,,,i tend to mostly agree with Urimaginaryfrnd.
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I am trying to buy a present for my husband. I want to buy a scope for his muzzleloader. He has a TC 50 cal. We are going to be hunting elk or mule deer. This is a new thing for us as we are rifle and bow hunters. I heard him mention something about a fixed 4 power one day and I know he likes leupold optics. That is all we have on our rifles. I looked at a leupold FX-II 4x33. Would this work OK?
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I looked at the Nikon Omega 3-9 with the BDC reticle yesterday at a buddies gunshop.

OUTSTANDING glass quality!!

 

Don't have a smoke pole, but if I did, it would be wearing this Omega!!

 

Welcome to the OT, royaltine!!

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A fixed 4x will work fine but a fixed 6 is probably a better choice at least for the way I hunt which is usually from a ladder stand or blind, if I was hunting with friends that stalk and push deer a lower power or variable like 1.5-6 or an 1x or 2x aimpoint would be a good choice.  I'm dropping deer at 200 yds with Encore  and Barnes 250 sabbot with 150 gr 777 or Omega  and Barnes 285 hpt sabbot and 120 gr 777 I keep the Encore sighted at 200 and the Omega sighted at 100 and expect 10 inches of drop to get from 100 to 200 yds.

If you are stalking Root's Leu isn't a bad choice.

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You may want to consider an I.O.R. fixed power 4x32 hunting scope. I find their glass is far
superior than any of the other scopes offered. That includes, Leupold, Nikon Monarch, Burris
Fullfield II, and the SS scopes. Don't get me wrong, all that Ihave mentioned are good scopes.
But the a Nikon is brighter than a Leupold and Burris. The SS is fine scope for the money. But
the glass of an I.O.R. is up their with Schmidt & Bender, Zeiss, and Swarovski.

And if you are hunting with a muzzleloader, then you want a scope with low power, either 4-6,
with quick target aquisition and wide field of view. 32mm objective will suffice, because at that
magnification, you do not have to worry about brightness. The lower the power the more bright
the scope is. Also with a lwer power scope, you do not have to worry about parralex as much.
And in all honesty, 100-150 yards is about the maximum range I would harvest a deer at with a
300gr. Hornandy sabot round. Anything past that range and you Hail Marying it. And that is not
taking into account wind drift.

Anyway I kind of got off the subject, check out the I.O.R. hunting line. A fixed 4-6 power will suit
your needs if you stand hunting or stalking. And the have a great lifetime gaurantee.
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Rootmanslim, what are you talking about? I suggested a scope for a .50 cal muzzleloader using
at least 100 grains of loose powder or 2 Pyrodex pellets. If one is shooting a 240 gr or more
sabot round out of a muzzleloader, your effective harvesting range IS 100-150 YARDS. Anyone
who claims they can effectively shoot beyond that with a muzzleloader, I would have to see it to
believe it. As far as a 6-25x56 euro scope on a muzzleloader, that is way to much magnification.
I could see that being mounted on say a .30-06, .308, or even the 300 Win mag. But not a
muzzleloader. And if you do have it mounted on a muzzleloader, I suggest you contact the
company to see if they will still honor their warranty for having a scope that is NOT DESIGNED for
use on a blackpowder or shotgun, being mounted and used on one. Chances are, they will not
honor their warranty, seeing as how they will consider that negligent abuse of their product.    

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I'll say it again, for a muzzleloader, I am suggesting a fixed 4 or 6 power scope with 32mm
objective. And I.O.R. makes a damn fine hunting scope for $269 to $299 that has a great
lifetime garauntee, with superior glass compared to Nikon, Burris, or Leupold.
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I am impressed with your knowledge on blackpowder and muzzleloading, and I do agree with
what you say. Unfortunately the Maxi ball and Barnes copper sabots shoot poorly out of my NEF
.50 muzzleloader. Barnes sabots were the first ones I tried, because I have heard so many good
things about them, both from friends and reading the forums. But they could hardly hold a 2
inch group at 100 yards with my rifle. Out of all the rounds I have tried, the best grouping with
100 grains of loose 777 powder are 1st: the Hornandy 300gr. XTP sabots. And 2nd hand cast
Lee REAL 320gr bullets. Both of these shoot very accurate for me anywhere from 1" to 2" groups
at 100 yards with open sights. I've managed to get tighter groups with the 4x32 scope. And yes
I so alot of still hunting, either prone in a thicket, or in a tree stand if it gets cold. The 300 to
320 gr sabot and cast bullet I use seem to drop the deer in it's tracks with a good lung shot right
behind the front shoulder, or right in the middle of the chest.

The one thing that most people who shoot muzzleloaders do not want to do is shoot and
experiment with variety of rounds and different powders out there. I get tons of poeple who ask
me at the gun store what bullet will shoot the best out of my muzzleloader. They don't like it
when I tell them that there is no magic one. And that you have to try different loads and rounds
to see which one your guns likes.

What do you shoot? Powder, charge, and round? Thanks Vlad
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You sound like a real enthusiast. And wow a 61 cal 400gr round is a MIGHTY round. I don't think
any elk or whitetail will take a step when hit with that. They might do a flip...lol And I ordered
the Sharpes Rifles DVD from Cabela's, thank you for mentioning that. Eventually I would like to
get a Kentucky long rifle replica to shoot and hunt with. I have always loved the look and feel of
them. The only other blackpowder I play around with and just love is my 1858 New Army
revolver. I use a Lee .44 Real bullet mold for that. And they are much much better than just a
round ball.

Have you ever had any of your muzzleloaders teflon coated? I am thinking about getting it done
to NEF and 1858. The NEF mainly because it's SS and sticks out like a cherry on a cream pie in
the woods. And using the tape is getting to be a pain in the rear. The glue residue is a bear to
get off at the end of season. So I wan thinking about a Black Ice coating. Was wondering if you
or anyone you know has had experience with it.

Thanks
Vlad
PS also any other pointers would be greatly appreciated. Wvladimire@yahoo.com
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Just wait till the first time the wife catches you in the shower with your Musket cleaning it with soap and water.
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NEW GUY ALERT !!!!!

 I have the thompson center omega .50 cal myself it was $450 something from www.keystonecountrystore.com  I shoot deer/javelinas/`lopes/elk/anything. I bought the leupold VX-I shotgun/muzzleloader scope. 3-9x40 heavy duplex reticle. I think I remember paying $225.00 from www.keystonecountrystore.com also. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I shoot out to 250 with ease and accuracy- but no farther. I can see at low light, I like the varible power, brand name is great and great warranty as well. this is a great scope for me and this gun. my omega is the camo/stainless and I bought and use a one piece mount that is the same matching camo as the stock on the muzzleloader itself.

 

I bought this one piece set of rings/bases from  www.talleyscoperings.com  it mounted right up on my omega, and holds the leupold scope is nice and tight, and the matching camo is a nice touch as well. the 1 piece ring/base combo was only like $75 dollars including shipping costs, a great product and great price.

my 5 cents !

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