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I am brand new to shooting and just purchased a FN SCAR in 556. I took it out a few weeks ago and wasn't great with the iron sights but I'm practicing and getting better. I would like to put some type of optic on the rifle but am not 100% sure which on to get. I like the idea of the SS 1-6 but think it may be overkill. Should I just get a red dot and call it a day? I don't mind spending extra money for the right optic but I just want to buy once. Ideas?
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I have run a lot of different optics on AR and by far my favorite are Trijicon compact ACOG scopes. Second best is the red dot but I like the clear glass and low magnification of the compact ACOG in combination with a La Rue RCO mount.  I have a 1.5 amber triangle and a red crosshair in a 3x which is no longer made. I think the 2x would be a fine choice for you just a little magnification but still a wide angle for rapid target acquisition.
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I'm also a fan of the ACOG's................... but your shooting will dictate what would be best for you.  Tell us a bit about how you plan to use the gun? 
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As far as usage goes it will be a SHTF weapon. I have a range near by that reaches out to 200 yards and I doubt I will ever shoot beyond that. I have a 308 hunting rifle for long range.
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It that was the case the ACOG would be a nice all around optic.  As would a SS 1-4 or SS 1-6.  The benefit of the SS is that on 1X its a true 1X and you can use it just like a red dot, the DOD reticle is very quick and the T-Post is as well.  But you can also "zoom" in when you do want to really put some precision shots out there, which the SCAR is more than capable of doing. 
 
 
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I would get a variable of some sort.  1-4x or 1-6x would be a great choice IMO.  No need to limit yourself with a fixed something or another when there are some excellent low powered variables available these days.

I have tried several fixed powered, 1x, 3x, 4x, but was never completely satisfied.  Then I tried some 1-4x scopes and have been very satisfied with what they offer me.  The SWFA SS line, and the Trijicon Accupoint both are very good. 
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Here's a suggestion for a 1-4x if you want a sfp reticle. alomost got one myself.
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I think you're right...ive been leaning this way for awhile but want to make sure I'm not limiting myself for close quarters. I will most likely go with the SS 1-6 and call it a day.

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I'm also a fan of the ACOG[ horse shoe ]but my aging eyes need a little more magnification,I recently purchased a IOR Valdada 1.5-8 x26.The glass is every bit as good as the ACOG[& that is saying somthing] & you will also get alot more magnification.Both great scopes.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

It that was the case the ACOG would be a nice all around optic.  As would a SS 1-4 or SS 1-6.  The benefit of the SS is that on 1X its a true 1X and you can use it just like a red dot, the DOD reticle is very quick and the T-Post is as well.  But you can also "zoom" in when you do want to really put some precision shots out there, which the SCAR is more than capable of doing. 
 
SVT is spot on.
 
That was thing thing that I really like about the 1-4.
 
You can use it like a red dot on 1X for in your home, and 4X outside your home.
 
It's the benefit of an ACOG and Red dot in one.
 
The mil based reticle will compliment your SCAR nicely.
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Another option is a true red dot.  I am a fan of ACOG and a good 1-4X, but for speed and non-precision fire, it doesn't get much better than an AImpoint.

The downside to an Aimpoint is a dead battery makes it useless, and this isn't true of a 1-4X.  The downside of a 1-4X is that head position is important and therefore (unless you train allot) slower. The SS1-4X is fairly forgiving of head position at 1X, less so at 4X but still very useable.


All the optics mentioned thus far will work, and I doubt you;d regret any of them.

In the end, it comes down to what best meets the needs.
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1-4 or 1-6 will work for anything.
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Originally posted by RotoReuter_DM RotoReuter_DM wrote:

1-4 or 1-6 will work for anything.
Not Really they are fine for hunting out to about 300 yds but not ideal as a combat optic unless they are purpose built that way like the Super Sniper series which are way tougher than the average 1-4 or 1.5-6 hunting scope. There is always a need for higher power tactical scopes past 300 yds to dial in correction. Fixed power scopes are typically TOUGHER
 
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Im going to vote ACOG or Reflex.  I have used Aimpoints, 1-4s, 1.8-10, fixed 10x, EoTechs, ACOGS, etc, etc.  The Aimpoint will be the fastest on target, and a fixed 10x will be better at 500 yards.  The 1-4 or 1-6 are the most flexible.  For a Carbine style battle rifle the optic that is the jack of all trades is the ACOG.  No batteries, no dials or levers, just apply the fundamentals of shooting and utilized the optic.  The down side is bullet selection.  If you don't use the proper cartridge the BDC won't work.  Use the right ACOG with the right mounting solution on the proper barrel length with the right ammo ... it WORKS.  Deploy weapon, rotate your selector to fire, engage target .... DONE
 
Dials, batteries, levers, switches etc all add another movement or step and a possible point of failure.  Now, with that said, the average recreational shooter will never have a problem as speed, high stress, muscle memory, fine motor skills, don't figure into going to the range once a month to plink.
 
I have a SWFA 1-4 and like it a lot, its a fine little scope.  I would not be the first thing I grabbed however.  Im a fan of KISS and run ACOGs and REFLEX that require no batteries or ON buttons.  I reload 62grain bullets to clone M855 and chose the ACOG first every time.  It does take time and practice to get quick with the BAC concept.  Now if I was going to clear a building and had time ... I would pop the QD and swap out to my Reflex.  Precision is relative to the application ... I would never expect to get sub MOA precision from a battle carbine at 500 yards.  I would expect minute of a man and at 600 yards I can ring 12 inch steel all day with my 4x ACOG.  Thats good enough for me on that weapon system.  If Im trying to shoot sub MOA at 600 ill choose a different tool ... deploy bolt gun and hit the 6 inch target.
 
If the OP just wants to sit on the bench at the range and print groups at 100/200/300 ... get a fixed 6 or 10x and move along.


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I"m new to the firearm's world (4 weeks old) picked up a M1A SOCOM 16 several weeks ago and just purchased a SCAR 16S today. I am now looking for an optic for both. I came across this  one that looked to be just the thing but wanted to see what you guys thought................
 
ELCAN SpecterDR Tactical Rifle Scope 1.5x:6x 42mm Switch Power Illuminated 5.56 Ballistic Crosshair Reticle Matte with ARMS Throw Lever Picatinny-Stye Mount
 
 
 
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No experience with them, but, er, um, I think you meant to post this one:

Elcan 1.5x/6x SpecterDR Optical Sight Illuminated Dot / Crosshair Elcan 1.5x/6x SpecterDR Optical Sight
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I have one of these mounted on an AR (not a SCAR, but 5.56) in mildot reticle:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P50716.aspx

and one of these...

http://swfa.com/Optisan-1-4x24-Mamba-EAR30-Mount-Combo-P51887.aspx
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