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Hi,  I'm kind of a noob when it comes to optics but I do understand the basics.  I have a Browning BLR in .308 that I just bought and I need a scope to put on it.  I've done a bit of research and some shopping around but can't decide what is the right scope.  I will hunt deer, coyote and wolf with the gun and I would like to be able to take shots out to about 400 yards.  I have no brand preference I just want the best bang for my buck.  I wouldn't want to spend more than $1000 and if the right scope is much less than that, well thats good too.  
Currently I am considering two scopes:

Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44mm


Nikon Monarch 2.5-10X42

I'm interested in these because of the reticles,  Nikon has the BDC and Zeiss calls it Rapid Z.  From what I can gather the Zeiss Rapid Z come in 4 choices depending on the range you wish to shoot.  I was considering the Z-800 for my gun.  

What do the experts think of these style reticles?  I haven't looked through the Zeiss yet but I believe it is the better of the two.  Is this right?  Also, the Nikon has a 1" tube and the Zeiss a 30mm?  I was led to believe the 30mm tube has far better light transmission capabilities but after reading on here I wonder if someone was blowing smoke up my behind.   

Any input would be appreciated, thanks.

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Edited by RifleDude - November/18/2011 at 14:19
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The Zeiss will have better image quality, as it should for additional price.

Tube size has nothing to do with how bright a scope is.  It has to do with the size of the objective in relation to the magnification.  Also it has a ton to do with the quality of glass and the quality of the coatings on the glass.

As far as hold over reticles go they work fine once you have figured them out to your rifle and load. 
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Edited by RifleDude - November/18/2011 at 14:56
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30 mm tube wont buy you any more light than 1 inch tube what it does do for you is give you more internal mechanical travel so greater range of adjustment top to bottom. The objective divided by the power the scope is set on give you a number refered to as --- exit eye pupil.  Bright scopes are 6x42 or 7x50 or 8x56         42mm objective divided by 6 power gives you a 7mm exit eye pupil so bright as can be used by a young man with great eye sight.  A 10 x56 would have  a 5.6mm exit eye pupil so pretty bright where a 20x42mm would have a 2.1 mm exit eye pupil so rather grey in low light but fine in bright daylight.  Personally I would prefer a trijicon accupoint scope if hunting preditors in low light.
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I would probably pick the 5-20 since it has tactical knobs and one could dial in correction for trajectory at different distances.   All you need to do is make a balistic chart 
That will tell you how much correction to dial in and then use a rangefinder to determine range this works no matter what power you have the scope on.  i really forsee you working at 5x more than at 20x but you have the higher power when you want a closer look.  The post type reticles work with the bindon aiming concept - essentially they guide the eye onto the target.  I have a Zeiss Rapid Z800 and it is great glass but you wind up working at only one power which is not ideal - for my 300 WSM with 190 SMK 2900 fps I am zeroed at 200 at 7x at 300 and at 10x the rest of the way out to 800. What happens is in low light with a 44 mm objective it would be better to work between 4.5 and 6x but it puts me at 10x which leaves me with a 4.4mm exit eye pupil rather than a bright 7mm one.

Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - November/18/2011 at 23:38
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