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Hi, I need some advice.

 

I resetly purchased a Remington CDL 7mm Mag. 

 

I've heard horror stories about scopes falling apart with rifles that have heavy recoil.  I'm looking for a scope that works in low light conditions, won't fall apart, is built to last, and doesn't cost both and arm and a leg.

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i have used nikon buckmaster and nikon monarch as well as burris fullfield2 on my 300 mag's and they have held up just fine and there prices are very reasonable right now especially the nikon lineup they are having a huge sale on them right here right now i believe
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what is your budget?

 

and what objective size is too much for you?

 

i am a fan of the 56mm's as they offer brighter images.  I would be happy to recommend some that have

worked well for me in the past.

 

Welcome to the OT.

 

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Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

what is your budget?

 

and what objective size is too much for you?

 

i am a fan of the 56mm's as they offer brighter images.  I would be happy to recommend some that have

worked well for me in the past.

 

Welcome to the OT.

 

J

 

jon, i am curious and i'm not trying to start a fight in any way shape or form, i just want to understand your reasoning for the huge objective, cause i cant see the need unless you spend 99% of you time hunting in very low light conditon, please help me understand the benefits of the bigger lens and the extra cost

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J,

 

I would like stay under $500 or so but if that is unreasonable I can go higher. 

 

Bigger objectives = more light, so bigger is better.  I've been looking at 50mm Leupold and Nikon.  I worked with an optics engineer in Oregon who told me Nikon is just as good as the others and cheaper. (Please don't yell all at once.)

 

I don't want to drop heavy coin on optics that can't take it.

 

-R 

 

 

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This would be nice:

 

 

Nikon 3.3-10x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope                      Nikon 3.3-10x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope
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thats a nice choice
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Built in sales calls?  I didn't know they were allowed.

 

I have only seen one manufacturer who make the claim their scope are built to handle magnum loads.  There doesn't appear to be anything in the specifications about it.  Just like a firearm, you buy it and it's yours. 

 

-R

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i spend most of my deer hunting (whitetail) in the deep woods - it is the ultimate lowlight setting.

 

i have zeiss, meopta meostars, and 4200's on my weapons because

85%+ of the shots i take are almost in complete dark. (still legal hunting time, mind you)

 

1 hour before sunrise and 1 hour after sundown.

 

i have had 40 and 44mm zeiss scopes that just weren't bright enough - i like low power and big objectives to acheive the most light.

(even though my eyes can't utilize all of it) only 7mm or so of exit pupil. anyway, i like the big bell so i can sit long after the does come out.

that's when the big critters walk. my 2 cents. and even though it may look funny on my weapons to some, i sit longer than everyone i hunt with.

 

with THAT said, i still don't shoot until i know exactly what i am looking at.  i have my fujinon 7x50 binos to thank for that.

 

J

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50 mm would be a good compromise and still pretty bright.

 

I would take nikon over leupold for your budget - much more bang for the buck -

 

they highest end leupolds are nice, but twice your budget -

 

if i were you, i would look at the 50mm meostar by meopta - around 600 bucks, but swaro and zeiss quality.

better than the conquests.

 

good luck and let us know what you decide.  Go 56mm and sit longer!!!! hehehee.

 

J

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i see why you like big objectives in the state i live in its only 30 min before and 30 min after sunrise/sunset so i guess that would make sense
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thanks, they may look funny on small framed rifles, but they get the job done

 

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i have always had to shoot my deer with a candle in one hand  40mm obj. but its usally in the morning hours not night!
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J,

 

Thanks for the advice. 

 

My wife always tells me I underestimate what I plan to spend, this may be one these cases.  But she knows, I can buy one every 3 to 5 years or I can buy one to last a lifetime.  What model do you have?

 

-R 

 

 

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i have the 7x56 meostar on my 7mm right now. (i had a hankering for a fixed power this last time around)

i am very pleased for the kind of hunting that i do.

 

but i would reccommend the 50mm or 56mm models with variable power.

MY next scope will be the 3x12x56mm meostar.

 

the 3x12x56 is a tremendous scope for under 700, but you can get the 50mm model for under 600.

 

these scopes use wonderful glass/coatings and are EXTREMEMELY bright and crisp.  As good IMO as the higher end swaros and zeiss.

 

i would also recommend the #4 reticle - easy to aquire your target and it really stands out in the lowlight.

 

are you leaning towards a bigger objective? or wanting to stay under 50?

 

the elite 4200's are super for the money too - almost as good as the bigboys (most people couldn't tell MUCH of a difference)

you COULD save the money, buy a 4200, and put the money back in some solid rings/bases. 

 

keep in mind, the rings and bases are just as important as the glass you put on top.

even a SB/swaro is useless w/out good mounts.

 

let us know what you narrow it down to. thanks.

 

J

 

 

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i see why you like big objectives in the state i live in its only 30 min before and 30 min after sunrise/sunset so i guess that would make sense

All the other scopes mentioned are very bright and nice. I think they are quite large and not needed for your hunting hours. We have the same shooting times here in Michigan. I would suggest the Bushnell 4200 3-9x40. It is very bright, crystal clear and will look really good on your gun to boot. There are many other scopes in this price range that would suffice, also.
Burris Signature Select
Nikon Monarch
Leupold VX-III
Sightron SII
http://www.riflescopes.com/products/423944M/bushnell_3-9x40_ elite_4200_rifle_scope.htm
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i'm in minnesota and to be honest i dont even know anybody who has a scope with a bigger obj than 44mm on a deer rifle, some guys that shoot competitive target use 50+ but i like my 40mm just fine

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I think your right pyro. I do have a 50mm on one of my night time guns and it is bright. I use it for coyote and coon control and it is fine for that job. I think people that stand hunt over large openings would have good use for this set up, also. For general use I think the 3-9x40 is a great set up. My longest shot at a mulie was just under 300 yards with a 4x. I don't think on big game magnification is the issue, but when I dial up a 40mm scope to around 6x at dusk it sure lets me take the shot.
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