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    Posted: November/21/2005 at 16:13

Hunting season is going full blast here in NC.  I have a simmons Aetec on a Steyer 30-06.  I am in desperate need of an upgrade in the optics department..  Most I want to pay is $3-400.  I would like a lighted reticle.  I live in the eastern flat part of the state.  Hunt whitetail on the edge of bean and corn fields.

Does anyone know about Swift Scopes-

Where is the best place to purchase the scope that you recommend?

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My uncle travels to Germany quite a bit.  Do you think he could purchase a Zeiss cheaper over in Germany than it would be here?
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Welcome.

 

Nikon Buckmaster.......Forget the lit reticle on that budget. 

Illuminated reticles are pricey. And you can get a lot of scope for $400, but not with a lit reticle. 

 

Swift scopes blow!!



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I lived in Germany for two years and can tell you that any German product that you can by in the U.S. will cost ten times as much in Germany.  They have taxes on top of taxes on top of taxes to pay for their socialist programs.  Take a look at the Bushnell Elite 4200, Nikon Monarch and Weaver Grand Slam in around 3-9x40.  Forget about a lit reticle.

 

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Not to sound like a broken record, but forget the lighted reticle.  Todays good scopes will provide you with plenty of light gathering capability to make those difficult shots at dawn or dusk. 

 

Ones I'd suggest is the Bushnell Elite 4200, Weaver Grand Slam, Burris Signature Select, and Pentax Whitetails Unlimited.

 

As far as Swift Scopes the Premier is a very clear scope but from what I have read here and other forums is that they are not too durable and don't hold up well to recoil.  I may still buy a Premiere for my rimfire but I dont trust it for a center fire rifle.  That and I'm a HUGE fan of Swift binoculars.  The Audubons I have are beyond words.  People always comment that they are extremely clear and right up there with the top brands and with ED glass they are incredible.  But I cant say that about their scopes.

 

You mentioned gettting a Zeiss cheaper in Germany.  You might be able to, but keep in mind that the Zeiss line made in Germany are very expensive here, these are your $1,000 + scopes.  The line that is assembled in the USA is the Conquest line it is the more reasonable priced scope.  So your chances of getting a Conquest in Germany cheaper is pretty slim. 

 

 bought a Zeiss Conquest last year and if you hunt around you can find them for around $490-$500.  You mentioned that your willing to spend $400.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with the above recommended scopes.  I think the Bushnell 4200 is great and I love the Weaver Grand Slam and I have friends that swear by Nikon scopes BUT there is an old saying "buy once cry once" if you can save up the extra money go with the Zeiss Conquest about the best scope out there under $1,000.

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I have a zeiss conquest and it is one of the best scopes that I have ever owned or even looked through. I also have several elite 4200 and 3200 scopes and really really like them. Very nice bright high quality optics. You might be interested in the firefly recticle that is offered in the elites. I have it in my 3200 1.5-4.5X32 and it is better that i expected it to be. Another plus to the elites is their Rainguard that works great. I have had about every brand of riflescope and now will pretty much only buy zeiss or bushnell (or sightron if on sale, great scopes). I just got in my bushnell elite 8X43 binos and they are something to be seen. If you don't get the zeiss don't overlook bushnell.
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Thanks for your help.  What size?  2.5-10-50  or 4-16-50? Firefly or illuminated dot?

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Originally posted by joeybe joeybe wrote:

Thanks for your help.  What size?  2.5-10-50  or 4-16-50? Firefly or illuminated dot?

 

Try to stay with a 40mm-ish objective if you can.

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I agree with cheap trick stay with a 40 if you can. You will probably not notice much difference at all in brightness. I would recommend the 2.5-10 because of the better FOV and brightness.  What height rings does your rifle have on it? I would guess that since your aetec has a 44 obj on it they could possibly be highs so you might check and order the right height.
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I would say low or medium rings with a 44mm objective. I may be wrong, of course.
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I had one for a while on a ruger m77 MII and it had to have highs but most guns mediums will work just fine, just something to check. I like to have my scopes mounted as close as possible. I forgot to mention I would absolutly go with the firefly over the illum. 
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Joeybe,
I hunt in a similar situation here in SC.  We can take deer up to 1 hr. AFTER sunset.  As others have said, you do NOT need a lit reticle.  In fact, it may actually be counter productive in that it could "wash out" the deer.  What you DO need is a scope with good light transmission.  If you have this you can see the deer and the reticle under very low light conditions.  I highly recommend the Weaver Grand Slam 50mm.  It is a lot brighter than my Vari-X-III's.  Last year I took a deer 57 minutes after sunset while using a good low light scope.  The Vari-X-III's won't work that late in the evening.  I watched 4 deer this afternoon until 1 hr. after sunset.  I put the reticle on one at 55 min. after sunset and could have taken the shot, but the deer was not large enough for what I wanted.  The scope was a Redfield 6x18 that a lot of folks speak badly about.  It is also brighter than my Vari-X-III's........Go figure!.
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My 30-06 Beretta Mato has a Burris 3x10x40 Signature Select scope.  The other scopes that I looked at for that rifle were the Zeiss 3x9x40 Conquest, Leupold VX-III 3.5x10x40, Weaver Grand Slam 3x10x40 and the Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5x10x40.  If I had not picked the Burris, my next choice would have been the Zeiss Conquest.
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