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I just bought a rem 700 in 257 weatherby and i am having troubel deciding on a scope.  i was originally planning to get a leupold VX-L 4.5 -14 with the boone and crockett reticle but now i am not sure.  I have started looking at the zeiss conquest 4.5 -14 with the z-800 reticle and also the swarovski av 3.5-10.  i will be using it mostly for deer and will have some opportunities for long shots.  i know the sworovski is the best scope but i dont want to pay for one with the higher maginification.  does anyone have experience with any of these?
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sweet rifle, awesome caliber, how a about a kahles??
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or maybe a light weight Swaro with ballistic reticle???

http://www.swfa.com/pc-8616-278-swarovski-3-10x42-american-riflescope.aspx
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Which Remy 700 (.257) did you get, the LSS (limited edition) or CDL SF? Both look awesome!!
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i got the LSS.  Do any stores like cabelas or bass pro sell kahles scope.  i cant spend that much money without at least looking thru it
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Originally posted by wirenut wirenut wrote:

i got the LSS.  Do any stores like cabelas or bass pro sell kahles scope.  i cant spend that much money without at least looking thru it
dont trust us?? i have seen them in cabelas once and and sportsmans warehouse too.
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Originally posted by wirenut wirenut wrote:

i got the LSS.  Do any stores like cabelas or bass pro sell kahles scope.  i cant spend that much money without at least looking thru it
 
Look no further, bro.  They're sold by the company who offers this site for your use -- SWFA.
 
SWFA also offers plenty of used and demo Kahles scopes on their Sample List.
 
 
 
 
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Wirenut, if you haven't seen the Finland Low Light Scope Test post, you should. You will see that the Leupold VX L fared poorly in a test of seeing deer in low light conditions. Kahles is consistently rated as one of the better scopes.
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which kahles is the best.  there are alot of choices.  it is not that i dont trust you i just have to see to believe.  all my other guns have leupold glass on them and they have performed very well.  i know better stuff is out there i just don't know anything about the kahles scopes except for what i have read on this site
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The Kahles scopes are very close in quality to the Swarovski but the thing I like about the Kahles is that the reticle seems to be a little heavier and the multizero feature allows you to be able to zero the scope at five different distances. The problem with most balistic reticles is that they only work at the highest power, combine that with the fact that as it gets dark you need to dial down the power to allow more light throught the scope. Example a 6x42 mm scope has a 7mm exit eye pupil (as much light as could possibly be useful)  to get that you divide 42 by 6 resulting in the 7mm answer so what happens when you increase the magnification to say 10x on that 42mm objective then 42 divided by 10 gives 4.2 mm exit eye pupil - not as bright  and as the magnification increases the cost in light transmission through the scope suffers badly.  I have seen Kahles in a few stores but I personally feel that you would be far better off doing business with SWFA either a new or possibly a used scope from their inventory on samplelist.com here is a used one I like
6858 Kahles 4-12x52 CL Multizero 51733, Matte finish, plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, no ring marks, close to new condition. $1,353.00 $999.95
The big benefit of this scope is that your 200 yd zero will be same at all powers 4x, 5x, 6x etc and your 600 yd zero will be the same at all powers same same.  A balistic reticle just flat cant do that in a second focal plane and they dont seem to put them into first focal plane scopes with the exception of Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x40 LEU60030  however the Kahles system is much simpler and I would set the zero at 200, 300,  400, 500, 600 and know how to hold at 100 which should only be a couple of inches different.  Anyway SWFA will sell you the scope of your choice and once you get it in look it over and do not mount it or beat it up and if you dont like it call them and send it back to them and either get a refund or order a different scope. The only thing you would be out would be the cost of shipping it back and I have done this and had good success working with SWFA they are great to do business with and you will be satisfied. Thunbs%20Up
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Special ordering is just the only way to get some of the really good stuff.  When I went by Cabellas in KC they only had a couple of decent scopes and a lot of Junk not what I would call a selection, but they did have some nice guns.
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The amount of light entering the scope is determined by the size of the objective lens, and the amount that exits through the eye piece is determined by the transmission factor. If we have 1000 units of light entering a scope that transmits 90% of it to the exit pupil, 900 units of light will exit the scope, irrespective of the magnification.

Magnification does have a role in how we perceive brightness. If we set the magnification such that the diameter of the exit pupil is 10 mm (78.5 sq mm of area), the 900 units will be spread over that area giving us 11.46 units of light per millimeter. If you set the power such that the exit pupil is 6 mm in diameter, the 900 units are spread over 28.3 sq mm of area or 31.83 units per millimeter. If you used a light meter capable of measuring over a small area, you would confirm that the amount of light per square mm increases as the exit pupil diameter decreases.

Our eye detects the light and our brain puts the information together to form a mental image. So, details about how we perceive brightness comes into play. For low light levels, we will perceive the image to get brighter as long as the exit pupil of the scope does not get smaller than the shooter's pupil. When the exit pupil gets smaller than the size of our pupil, we will begin to perceive the image to get dimmer.

When fully dark adapted, the pupil on a young person can dilate to about 7 mm. As one gets older, her/his pupil will not dilate as much.
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I have a Weatherby in 257 and I have to say it shoots about as flat as a laser beam. I went with the Swarovski PH 3-12x50 which is an amazing scope. I took it outside at 2am the other night and under moonlight could pick out pine needles at 100 yards, clearly! I have been comparing it with my Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x50 in both daylight and night conditions. There is a rock formation that is at least a half mile off my back deck that I use for daylight. I find very little difference in clarity and resolution with both scopes on 10x. At night however while the Zeiss is bright enough to make a 100 yard kill there is much distortion which hinders absolute identification (coyote or neighbors dog). If your hunting needs are restricted to legal hours I would go with the Conquest. If you need to shoot that howling coyote off your front deck at 4 in the morning (as I do) spend the extra bucks.
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