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I have a 17 hmr that I need a scope for. I would like to set it up for close up, out to 300. According to balistics charts 17 grain at 2550, which is average, zeroed at 50, drops to about 36 at 300. I want to use it to practice dialing in elavation and wind corrections on small animals like crows, rabbits, squirrels, armadillos, etc. Price? Let"s not get crazy but I'm willing to spend what I need to get what I need. Power range? Tell me what I need to see a crow at 300 hundred and get an effective shot. Don't foget it will need to work at 15 yards also. Does such a scope exist? Thanks in advance for your help, I know if it's out there you guys will know. 
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I have a 4.5-14x40 (AO) Nikon Buckmaster on mine and a Burris FFLL Ballistic plex on my sons.  Both work well, but at 15 yards they wouldn't be very good (I have a S&W Model 41 for those critters that close).  I believe Leupold makes a EFR scope that lets you really focus in close.  Not sure of the magnification range or the $$$.

If you want to dial in windage and elevation one of those Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16 maybe the ticket, but I'm not sure how close they will focus down to.
 
For a 17HMR @ 300 yards or even a 100 for that matter, if there is wind (however slight) that little bullet is going to be blown around.
 
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I went this morning early to do a little experimenting. I now have a straight 4 power simmons shotgun scope on the rifle. I also had my remington 5r 308 w/ SS3x9 with me. I saw a crow and ranged him at 153 yards. I looked at him with the 4x and he was small but I could do it. I picked up the 5r and looked at him at 4x in the ss, significantly better picture. I dialed up to 9, even better.  I picked up the 17 again took aim, poof, feather cloud. All that to say this, the SS3x9 is just to big to be comfortable on this little rifle, but how about the new SS1x4? I think I have read just about everything that has been written about this new scope and it seems impressive. It would definitely cover the close stuff, but is an 8in. crow at near 300 silly to consider with that particular scope? I know that I could dial to my hearts content with the SS from using my SS3x9. Would I be short siding myself to much at 4x, even considering a much better picture than what I am seeing now with the simmons? Does resolution make a big enough difference to make this practical? I know it's not out yet but I can wait.

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I think for a .17, I would opt for more magnification than a 4x. Not that magnification is everything, and shouldn't be traded in favor of good glass. On the other hand, .17's tend to be shot at relatively small targets, and when those targets are at 300 yards, a little extra on top never hurt.
I am running a 6-18 on mine. It's WAY plenty for what I do out to 400 yards. I could get by with a nice 3-12, but I'm running a cheap BSA, and it does what I expect at that price point. (about all I expect it to do is suck, so I've never been dissapointed with it.) The SS 3-9 that that you looked at the crow through would probably do it for you, but if crows at 300 is going to be routine, a little extra wouldn't hurt. I'll have to look and see what I can find that will focus to 15 yards too. 
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I use a 2.5-10 Tasco Mil-dot Varmint it does the job and does it well.  You have 10yrd-infinity parallax adjustment and plenty of magnification.  A 10x should be plenty you might not be able to resolve your holes but you will know your groups.

I never have to worry about it and the Mil-dot helps with the wind and drop...You have to figure it out in the field that is for sure if the wind is up so I would go mil-dot for sure...As well as the bullet drop it is variable because of head on wind and light bullets and velocity differences between ammo.

http://swfa.com/Tasco-25-10x42-Target-Varmint-Riflescope-P8719.aspx

The glass is just fine I've used it low-light and in the winter with/out glare without any issues.


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For 330 yd shooting I would prefer more magnification than 4x.  That is why I suggested a Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16 and the next time I see one of those laying around I'm going to try and snag it for my 17HMR.  Other than that a 3-12 would be ideal for me.  A 3-9 has worked for me but for the target size I'm shooting at I prefer a tad more magnification. 
 
Mind you though, I shoot my 17HMR @ small ground squirrels (about the size of a chip-monk, give-or-take) in a high desert environment where there is several hundred to several thousand yards of wide open territory for 360 degrees.
 
Another thing to consider for distance shooting is parallax adjustments.  Scope without parallax adjustment may give you problems on small targets at longer distances.
 
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I like to shoot magpies with my 17HMR, I've tried a 4-12, 6-24 and a 3-9 on it. I've ended up with the 3-9.
I can tell you right now if you're shooting crows at 300yrd you'll wish for more than a 3-9, someone suggested bushnells 2.5-16 above, that magnification sounds really nice for a 17HMR.

A few other people in another similar thread suggested a Weaver (3-16 magnification I think it was.)

That sort of wide magnification range sounds ideal for your wide hunting range. I'd also suggest a fine crosshair scope, increases accuracy dramatically.
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I own both of these Leupolds and I am pleased with them. But another choice would be the Sightron. All three focus down to 10yds.

http://swfa.com/Leupold-3-9x33-VX-2-Rimfire-EFR-Riflescope-P51834.aspx

http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20x40-VX-3-EFR-Riflescope-P12728.aspx

http://swfa.com/Sightron-4-16x42-SII-Big-Sky-Riflescope-P9166.aspx
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