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I'm looking for recomendations, as is everyone I'm sure. But I'll be doing most of my shooting at 100 and 200 yard targets. I've already discovered that a 3-9x is inadequate, but I think a 24x is probably overkill. Something in the 16-18x range for $200 or less. I've heard Mueller recomended several times, but haven't been able to find it at a store to look at. The bushnell trophy series was nice, as was the nikon buckmaster, but they're both in the $250 range, and don't have exposed adjusters (A tactical scope then?)

oh, and it's going on my brand new savage 93RBTVSS
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I had a custom picattiny rail made for my 17HMR Cooper Model 57.

To this I mounted a USO 30mm Tube Sn-3 3.2-17x44 with lit MOA scale and 1/4 MOA EREK.

This thing is really fun on 25-150 meter squirrels.

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I have a Savage 93R17 and I put a BSA Sweet 17 2-7x32 scope on it when I got it.  Check out this link.
 
Cheaper scopes usually are just that- BUT...last Sunday my wife was shooting pop cans at 200 yards with this scope- easily (she has only shot one other time before).  Once you line it at 100 yards, you adjust the turret to line up with the 100 yard mark and lock it down and you are all set.  Many ground hogs have been victims...
 
The clarity (or quality) is not nearly as good as a Nikon or Leupold, but in my opinion this scope is a nice fit for the caliber.  
 
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 That's a fantastic rig, Critter, but the base and rings alone would easily blow the O.P.s entire budget!


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Looks nice! looks expensive! looks like something I can't afford :(
I checked out some of the more "inexpensive" scopes at gander, where you can hold them on a mock gun and really see them. The BSA's I looked at all looked and felt clunky, same with the lower level bushnells. Maybe $200 is too low, but I think I want something more clear than either of those. Oh, and I tried out a bushnell banner, but the glare on the glass is apparent compared to it's trophy big brother. I want to steer clear of that.
 
Hey, how do you like the lit reticle? Afternoon shooting in the winter gets kinda dark, it'd be nice to have something with more contrast. Is it worth it?
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I just bought (basically) the same rifle in a .223 on which I put a Leupold VX-III 6.5-20 with the varmint reticle.  But I have different expectations from that rifle as I do my .17. 
There is no doubt, a BSA sweet .17 on your rifle is going to look like a doughnut spare tire on a porsche.  However, I am shooting dimes at 100 and killing quail-eating- varmints at 200- which is really all I expect from that cartridge.
Believe me, I am not an expert by any means- it just depents on what you are going to do with the rifle.  Lots of good choices!
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Originally posted by marvinbeaverdip marvinbeaverdip wrote:

I'm looking for recomendations, as is everyone I'm sure. But I'll be doing most of my shooting at 100 and 200 yard targets. I've already discovered that a 3-9x is inadequate, but I think a 24x is probably overkill. Something in the 16-18x range for $200 or less. I've heard Mueller recomended several times, but haven't been able to find it at a store to look at. The bushnell trophy series was nice, as was the nikon buckmaster, but they're both in the $250 range, and don't have exposed adjusters (A tactical scope then?)

oh, and it's going on my brand new savage 93RBTVSS
  I'm afraid that your budget restraints are going to lead you to disappointment.  When you get into the 10x and up range, you really  need to put some money into the equation to get good glass. I think you found 3-9x inadequate because you were using a poor quality scope in that format, and the image sucked because of that. If you had a 4200 Bushnell in the same magnification, I doubt that it would fail to do very well for you at the limited yardages you are talking about, though a little more power would certainly not be out of line.
 Don't even think about a lit reticle.  You need to put every dime you can into better GLASS!
 Any way to crank the budget to $400 or so?
 


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http://www.samplelist.com/default.aspx?display_num=10&mfg_selection=9&prod_type=-1&hide_sold=false

Check out The Sample List.
There's a couple 4.5-14x Buckmasters for around $200 on there.
Damn good scope for the dinero! Bandito 
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

Originally posted by marvinbeaverdip marvinbeaverdip wrote:

I'm looking for recomendations, as is everyone I'm sure. But I'll be doing most of my shooting at 100 and 200 yard targets. I've already discovered that a 3-9x is inadequate, but I think a 24x is probably overkill. Something in the 16-18x range for $200 or less. I've heard Mueller recomended several times, but haven't been able to find it at a store to look at. The bushnell trophy series was nice, as was the nikon buckmaster, but they're both in the $250 range, and don't have exposed adjusters (A tactical scope then?)

oh, and it's going on my brand new savage 93RBTVSS
  I'm afraid that your budget restraints are going to lead you to disappointment.  When you get into the 10x and up range, you really  need to put some money into the equation to get good glass. I think you found 3-9x inadequate because you were using a poor quality scope in that format, and the image sucked because of that. If you had a 4200 Bushnell in the same magnification, I doubt that it would fail to do very well for you at the limited yardages you are talking about, though a little more power would certainly not be out of line.
 Don't even think about a lit reticle.  You need to put every dime you can into better GLASS!
 Any way to crank the budget to $400 or so?
 
 
$300 is really Max I think. I found a Nikon Buckmaster 6-18 that was really nice, comes with a BDC reticle option. I can get it for $305.  The 3-9x I was using is the Leupold VXII on my .243. I always considered that a nice scope, but I do think it needs more magnification to shoot 100, and 200 yards for small groupings.
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

http://www.samplelist.com/default.aspx?display_num=10&mfg_selection=9&prod_type=-1&hide_sold=false

Check out The Sample List.
There's a couple 4.5-14x Buckmasters for around $200 on there.
Damn good scope for the dinero! Bandito 
 
hhmm.... now I'm definitely leaning towards the nikon again@!
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The BM is a GREAT buy!!
I had a 4.5-14x with an AO on a .300 RUM with zero problems.
That scope made me take notice of the Nikon brand!!
 
Be advised!!
If you get a "refurb", the Nikon warranty is good for either 60 or 90 days, I can't recall. 
Not the No Fault lifetime the others have.
Just saying....
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Welcome to the OT, Marvin!!  
 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

The BM is a GREAT buy!!
I had a 4.5-14x with an AO on a .300 RUM with zero problems.
That scope made me take notice of the Nikon brand!!
 
Be advised!!
If you get a "refurb", the Nikon warranty is good for either 60 or 90 days, I can't recall. 
Not the No Fault lifetime the others have.
Just saying....
 
So paying the extra $30 to get a new one from another site might be a better idea?
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If you can pony up the few extra bucks, I would probably get new, if not, the refurb is a good option.
 
 
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 That is a very good price on the Buckmasters. I have a 3-9 on a 700 and it's been a good scope. I paid a little more than 200 bucks for it ten years ago, so the Sample list prices are very attractive.
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Originally posted by marvinbeaverdip marvinbeaverdip wrote:

I'm looking for recomendations, as is everyone I'm sure. But I'll be doing most of my shooting at 100 and 200 yard targets. I've already discovered that a 3-9x is inadequate, but I think a 24x is probably overkill. Something in the 16-18x range for $200 or less. I've heard Mueller recomended several times, but haven't been able to find it at a store to look at. The bushnell trophy series was nice, as was the nikon buckmaster, but they're both in the $250 range, and don't have exposed adjusters (A tactical scope then?)

oh, and it's going on my brand new savage 93RBTVSS
WELCOME, My 2 cents. I own a Marlin 917VS w/ a Mueller 4.5x14x40APV a Ruger K77/17 VMBBZ w/ Nikon Buckmaster 6x18x40 BDC SF. I have about 5000 rds thru both guns and as of today I am toptally happy with both. (They each serve their purpose)I think the Nikon is alittle better in glass quality. For your budget these will serve you well, but again I agree if anyway possible the more you put into your scope the happier you will be. I know not everyone can buy the high dollar scopes, but there are some good scopes available in your price range.
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I agree with these guys, just get a better scope not neccessarily more power.  At the moment my groundhog gun has a 10X scope on it (SS), and really that is sufficient power for the longer hauls.  I have shot groundhogs to 300 yds (all our terrain allows) or so with it and really not had a problem seeing them.  I once thought I needed alot of power but I am changing that thought.
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Thanks, I ended up buying a Browning 5-15x40.. Just got it, and it's VERY nice, very bright. I can't wait to get it installed
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