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Just got out of the marine corps i was a designated markman in the corps so now ive got my rifle i want to make as good as it can get without breaking my bank. Budget is 500 for a scope.  Im assuming i can shoot 1000 yards with my rifle because it seems more accurate than the m14's i was issued and we shot 1000 yards with them. Savage 10FP LE1 .308 20" Bull Barrell.
      I dont need low light shooting capability really, i would like a mil dot preferrably. Weapon will be used for day time target shooting, deer hunting aswell. Right now i have a Bushnell Elite 10x40 fixed power with no parrallax adjustment. Do i need a parrallax adjustment to hit at 1000 yards? Really enjoyed getting to know the milradian and mil turrets of the schmidt and bender. Would like to shoot past 1000. So let me know if im crazy with this rifle or what!
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SPL11525 SWFA 3-9x42 SS Rifle Scope DEMO-B
  SS39X42, Matte, FFP Mil Dot, 30mm
$499.99
SPL14074 SWFA 3-9x42 SS Rifle Scope DEMO-B
Click to view SS39X42, Matte, FFP Mil Dot, 30mm
$499.95
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them twos are winners.  Can't beat a SS.

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Does the scope i currently have lacking a parrallax, how bad does that hurt trying to shoot 1000 yards and possible further? And the SS you listed above that has a parrallax correct?
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it's fixed, and i haven't used mine for 1k, but 700 is no problem
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Negative. No parallax correction on the scope posted above. It's an outstanding scope, to say the least. 

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If you poke around here and the net, you will find some excellent explanations of parallax.  I haven't experience with such long ranges, but what I have read says that parallax error gets less with longer ranges.  The way I understand it, at a 1000yd range, parallax should be negligible.  But I could be wrong also. 

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Parallax can make a big difference at long range.
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I would recommend the entire family of the SS scopes they have yet to let me down.

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When your budget is $500 you dont really get everything you want. No the 3-9x42 does not have parallax and it is not ideal for 1000 + yd shooting but for under $500 its as close as you will get to one that is capable of hitting at 1000  yds.  The 10x HD would be a better choice and the 5-20x50 would be ideal but they are both more money.  The other possible would be something in the Sightron SIII series their fixed 16x has 150 moa of internal adjustment.  That 1000 yd mark is often mentioned and seldom attempted guys tend to shoot at 200 to 300 yds a lot more of the time and occasionally at 600 and then there a few true fanatics that really do shoot 1K+ but is is sure tought to find a range that will allow that most places.
If it helps you can trade in your current scope toward a new purchase. http://www.samplelist.com/TradeInForm.aspx


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[QUOTE=338LAPUASLAP] "Savage 10FP LE1 .308 20" Bull Barrell. "


I love the Savage, never really put my faith in them until I bought one in the .338 110BA and then I haven't really looked back.

I would recommend the entire family of the SS scopes they have yet to let me down.

I have shot every one I have owned out to at least 1000yrds.


The only ones I would stay away from are the 16x and the 20x.  With that said I do own a 16x and will never give it up but I don't shoot 1000yrds with it.

The 5-20 is so far the best appealing to me the 10x HD a very close second.

Top SS 5-20HD

What is the reason for staying away from the 16x SS? If it has parrallax which it says rear focus 50-~ 16x just too much zoom all the time? 

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My post above didnt work right as a quote! Id like to thank everyone who has replied ive definately never been on a forum as a newbie before and had such great feedback...
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16X is too much mag for all the time.
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The 39, 10x HD, and the 5-20 all have HD glass.  The 6x, 10x (non HD), and the 16x do not have HD glass.  At 1000 yards you will want the better glass.
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338LAPUASLAP that is one sick rifle you got there!!! Thanks for the info everyone.
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Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

16X is too much mag for all the time.

I agree. The fact that you'll be "hunting", makes a fixed 16x, or even a fixed 10x, less than ideal.  
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Welcome to the OT and thank you for your service!
 
Here's a couple of links for your reading enjoyment regarding SS scopes.
 
 
 
 
 
I have a SS 3-9x42 on my AR and am seriously considering putting another one (Mil-Quad model) on my .308 Savage 10 PC that I have on order.  Like you I will also be using my .308 for hunting and am weighing my options for a good mil/mil scope that isn't overly heavy for carrying.  I've held off buying thus far in hopes that SWFA might come out with another model that fits between the 3-9 and the 5-20 that isn't overly heavy.  I have a 3-6 month window before I get to the point where I will buy glass.  If nothing comes to market, I'm sure I'll own another SS 3-9.
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I have my Bushnell Elite 10 x 40 right now that i use for hunting and i have no problem with short shots with it, meaning the 10x power isnt too much i. Ive shot a deer and a coyote at 20 and 50 yards with it and it was ok.  From my understanding of all these parrallax articles that i read. The maximum error at 1000 yards is a few inches  with a 10 power? And the only way to get the maximum is to look through the scope from the very edge...<---Correct me if im wrong... I need to take my bushnell out and see how it performs at long ranges first of all but i will be getting a SWFA if i make a scope upgrade. 
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I have damn near the exact same set up. I went with a 16x ss. I shoot deer with it too however I only use it for feild hunting. Their is no way you could hunt in the timber with one. If you want to shoot a thousand yards go with the 16 x ss you will not be disappointed! Then buy a marlin XL7 for your brush hunting rig! Those guns have sweet triggers for those of you who havnt messed with them and their only 300 bucks. If you want a do all rifle I would get a nikon monarch 4-16. Just my 2cents 
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The 16X Suits my budget the best i think anyway... It has a parrallax which is all i really want. If it has glass close to my $200 dollar bushnell ill be happy with it for a long time. Thanks for your 2 cents
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Hey man I dont know if you do any reloading but if you do here is the load that I worked up for my rifle that shoots VERY well. Give it a try and see if your rifle likes it too..
 
168 grain AMAX
45.5 grains Varget powder
Bench Rest 2 primers
Hornady brass
COAL 2.85
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After i get a better scope reloading was my next step so thanks for the input!!! Ive decided to get a SWFA SS 10x scope When i get my tax return haha!!! So i should be set then!!! I dont know what base and rings to buy tho. Gunsmith put some on my rifle when i got it and he said thatll work... however they are only one allen screw and not very wide the bases are split bases... If anyone has any input on bases and rings im all ears...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/13/2011 at 20:33
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Thanks those look much better than what i have... Someone mentioned these below as being good whats the input on them? Baseless mounts?

http://swfa.com/Savage-C2580.aspx


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