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tjones96761
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Posted: June/02/2010 at 20:39 |
The old saying "scope price should be equal or greater than cost of the rifle..." Mine average about 60% across the board. I don't have any true Target/Tactical stuff, mostly hunting rifles. How bout you guys?
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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In my dreams all may scopes are Heinsold s then I wake up.
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Roy Finn
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On my rifles, there is no direct correlation between the cost of the scope vs the rifle. I choose my scopes for there intended purpose.
Edited by Roy Finn - June/02/2010 at 21:13 |
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SVT_Tactical
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I play musical scopes to much to say a direct correlation to scope cost to gun cost.
Roy said it well and I have to agree with his statement for the majority........I dont see a reason to dictate your purchases on what your gun cost.
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powderburn
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I tend to keep my scopes forever and learned early to never trade them on a rifle as you rarely get much for them. The end result is My scope arsenal is probably 25 years old on the average. I have a 35 year old K4 on my 270 rem 700 that has accounted for several deer over the years and still works fine. I have a vari xII on my 243 Ruger RSI a m8 4x on my 257 Ruger a scopechief 4x on my stevens 200, 308 all proven deer whangers and a scopechief 3x9 on my stevens 200, 223. I find all of these scopes very capable of taking game in any legal light situation and all have provided trouble free service rain or shine since I owned them. So since my rifles might be worth $1600-1800 and my scope worth $about $300-$400 I'm figuring about 20%.
I know most people on here would consider me a barbarian with my old tech dim mag fluoride coated low powered scopes but they have all provided me years of trouble free service so I have never really bought in on the mega scopes. IMHO You should be able to find a perfectly acceptable hunting scope for $300 or less. Now I'll admit I am not a professional hunter rather a professional who hunts. I.e. my job schedule pretty much limits my hunting to a few days deer hunting on local farms in the Ohio valley region where I live, so I don't really have to worry much about a pack horse rolling on my rifle etc. and if it's raining buckets I tend to stay at the cabin and kibitz with my buddies as most of us really don't need to shoot another deer that bad. |
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neilbilly
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Always a compromise here. Some scopes cost more than the guns, some scopes.... well let's just say that they probably cost more than a box of shells for the gun. Roy summed it up pretty well, depends on what I want to use it for. |
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pyro6999
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i wish i could afford scopes that cost as much as the rifle do, in my case its more like a $700 rifle with a $200-$300 scope on them.
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Oldtrader3
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Roy+1, he said it all.
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sakomato
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This will take some math!
Rem 22-250 $600 / Burris Black Diamond 4x16x50 $650
6.5 rem mag custom rebarrel $1800 / Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14x44 $550
280AI custom rebarrel $1800 / Kahles 4x12x52 MZ $600 (gunbroker)
Steyr 30-06 $600 / Kahles 3.5x10x50 AH $700
Mato 300 win mag $600 (gunbroker) / Zeiss Diavari 2.5x10x50 $1500
338RUM custom rebarrel $1200 / Kahles 4x12x52 MZ $600 (gunbroker)
375 Ruger custom rebarrel $1250 / IOR 6x42 $500
Guns $7850 / Scopes $5100
Guess the guns are ahead.
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neilbilly
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Sako... damnit man.
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If God didn't want me to play with it, he'd of made my arms shorter.
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tjones96761
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That is probably a good approach, but not what I meant. What I mean to say is at any given day my total gun dollars is 100, total scope dollars on those guns is 60. That's why i said "across the board" rather than "on your favorite rifle, target rifle, hunting rifle, prettiest, most accurate...." My favorite rifle has a scope that exceeds rifle value. (OLD Savage 110 w Monarch) My most expensive rifle has a scope that is only about 20% rifle dollars. My prettiest rifle has a scope about 60% rifle dollars. Etc., etc., etc. So that's how i guesstimate 60% across the board. |
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Roy Finn
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Seeing how I mostly use 4200's and a couple of Leupold VXIII's I would have to say that across the board, my rifles are considerably more expensive than the scopes.
Remington CS APR- over 2 grand- 4200 scope Cooper Custom Classic- 1700- 4200 scope Remington Custom 280 Ackley- 1800- 4200 scope Remington Custom 30 STW- 1700- Weaver V16 scope Custom Husky 06- 1400- 4200 scope Husky 06- 600- Leupold VX2 Husky 06- 450 - Leupold M8 4x Knight ML- 450- Leupold VXIII Kimber 84M 7/08- 750 Leupold VXIII |
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Steelbenz
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Guys, my dad has been dead 23 years, and on this subject I can still hear his voice. "Boy, it doesn't matter what you paid for it, can you hit what your aiming' at with it?" LOL!
OK, maybe dad wasn't a word smith, but you can't argue with the logic. |
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koshkin
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I am with Roy and Steelbenz on this one.
I could not care less how the price of the scope and the price of the rifle correlate. The cheapest scope I own is about $100 and the most expensive one is ~$1500. That having been said, I have played with scopes from just about any price range out there. $1500 scope is on a $5k DTA SRS. There is also a $800 scope sighted in for that rifle as backup. $100 scope is on a $60 old Romanian 22LR military trainer. Looking at everything else in my safe, I see no pattern of scope to rifle price correlation. $600 Sightron on a $600 Savage $700 Kahles on a $500 Tikka (there is also a $500 back-up scope sighted in for the rifle) $600 S.S. on a 308Win Mauser that I put together myself, so I am not sure of the cost $300 S.S. on a $800 AR-15 $200 GRSC on a $500 Kel-tec $300 ZoomDot on a $300 Saiga Old Nimrod 6x40 on a modified Finnish M39 (I do not remember how much either one costs) Steel tube K2.5 on a VZ24 sniper and the list goes on. Not much of a pattern there. ILya
Edited by koshkin - June/03/2010 at 13:34 |
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bugsNbows
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Since I'm very close to being an old fart (with health issues) I have paired down the rifle collection. I only have a few left, but they ALL wear good glass. Mostly Swaros. However, I must confess I'm getting the urge back to buy another. If so, I've got the hots for a S&B Summit or a Nightforce NXS Compact. I may even "lower" myself to a Meopta Meopro. LOL. Time will tell. We will see.
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Oldtrader3
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My rifles range from a Savage 93F to a London Guns custom built of 1949 Model 70. My scopes range from a $90 Vortex to one Zeiss V/VM which I paid $1200. for. I don't believe that any rifle that I own has a scope worth more than the rifle, except the Zeiss VM which is mounted on a CZ 527 American. Across the board, my scopes probably cost about 2/3rd's the rifle cost. That is except the London Guns custom and another 7mm Mag custom where the scopes equal probably 25-35% of the gun cost.
Edited by Oldtrader3 - June/03/2010 at 07:26 |
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cowski
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last one i got ,remington sps tatical 490 zeiss conquest 3x9x40 299 .its about 61%.
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pcrage
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Although I agree that the scope should accomplish tht intended purpose I believe that buying ultra high quality glass is critical. Even more so if you plan to spend time on once in a lifetime hunts lessening the chances for malfunction is important. I only have one setup where the glass is not at least equal to the cost of the rifle. I put a Z5 on a Cooper I just purchased because I really liked the scope. Rifle $1,800 and scope $1,400. All others have glass that is costlier than the rifle.
But I suppose if I start purchasing custom rifles in the future it would be difficult to spend more on glass.
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koshkin
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An observation from looking through this thread: am I the only one paranoid enough to have pre-sighted-in backup scopes?
ILya
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supertool73
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For the most part I have not seen the need to have the scope cost way
more than the gun. All my scopes do exactly what I need of them and
seem to do it well. Not that I would not like better ones, but what I
have is plenty sufficient for my needs.
$3500 custom Rem .308 $1300 IOR $2000 custom AR-15 $800 SS 10x HD $1400 custom AR-15 $900 ACOG $1400 custom AR 6.8 $250 4200 $800 AR $500 IOR $500 Browning BAR 7mm $400 Meopta ???? Winchester 100 .243 $150 Bush Legend $700 Marlin 45-70 $250 Leupold FX 2 4x $600 Marlin .357 $300 Sightron big sky $320 Ruger 10/22 $300 10x SS $150 Ruger 10/22 $50 Tasco Varmint $700 TC Omega $70 Simmons 1x $12,070 rifles $5,270 scopes |
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