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Hey All,

I'm ordering a new Rem. 700 VS -SF II in .220 Swift.

I was wondering what scope you'd suggest? i'm looking for quality... i plan to keep this scope for a while, and would like something good that'll last. I've been looking at the Leupold VX-II 4-12x40mm Adj Obj and a Schmit&Bender 3-12x42. Got a Swarovski 8x56 here and a 6x? Schmitt&Bender. Neither of them mine Smile

It'll be used for what i guess you people would call varminting... we dont really have it in ireland, but fox sized things at really any range from 50 yards.
 
Also, could anyone suggest any good mounts/rings for whatever scope they suggest?
That's the one thing i really have no idea about.
 
Thanks a lot,
_Kar
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Hello from America....and welcome to this forum. Big%20Smile 
 
If I had a 220 Swift and some money to spend on a Schmidt & Bender, I would just buy something less expensive and pocket a lot of the surplus money.  I see that you are in Ireland.  If I was in the UK I would have a look at the Lightstream scopes and see what they are like.  I understand that they are really quite nice, and that they have some kind of mil-radian reticle that will allow you to estimate range, etc. 
 
Leupold has got a varmint reticle, too, but I don't know what Leupolds cost in the UK.  I never had a Schmidt & Bender so I don't know anything about them--except that they are real expensive and probably very wonderful.  The Lightstream scopes are not being imported to the US right now because the price would be outrageous, but I know that they are available in the UK.
 
I think a 4X16 or a 6X20 scope would be plenty for fox-sized game with a 220.  If you have a chance to inspect any Lightstream scopes over there, let us know what you think of them. Right now, we can only see them on the internet!!                --Ed  
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Hello NICE GUN, I have a Ruger #1 220 Swift Varminter. I have mounted a Leupold VX-II 6x18x40 LRV. It has been on for two years now and it has been great. I agree with ED you can get a good quality scope and not have to spend a lot of money. If you was budgeting 1500.00 for a scope why not divide it and get a GOOD scope and a GOOD binocular, of course unless you already have a set....JUST MY OPINION....GOOD LUCK again NICE GUN..
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I have a Remington 700 Etonx in 220Swift. For me, it is the perfect varmint/small game/midsize game rifle/caliber. I shoot with a guy who has used 22-250 all his life and beat him to death. Right now it has a 10-40x50 NcStar on it. The NcStar is an OK cheaper scope, but it is a bit "grainy" and I WOULD NOT recommend it to anyone else. (I experiment with optics for a living, so I also experiment on my rifles).   Works for me out to 500yd, have not tried farther. With my Etronx, I am consistently holding under 1/2MOA. I am about to put my Nikon Laser IRT on the Etronx. Much better optics, overall, and I love the way the rangefinder works. Don't get me wrong, I don't really DISLIKE the NcStar, just don't love it. It performs very well for a low cost optic. It is moving from the Etronx to a custom 30-06 I am building (-06 has the Nikon right now). The NcStar makes a pretty good test scope, for me. Truthfully, I expect the group size to enlarge with the Nikon. If you are thinking of S&B, you cannot go wrong, probably as close to "the industry standard" as one could be. I do not love the Leupolds and have avoided them since getting burned on a VariX II several years ago. Was not as good as the NcStar. Many disagree, I just don't care for Leupy's. For varmint hunting, a variable is better for me...a personal decision whether you are more comfortable with fixed or variable magnification and each has its own application. I have a 4x on my .458 Lott and cannot see a need for anything else in my lifetime (however, I am considering an Aimpoint). You can never go wrong with Swarovski, either...neck and neck with the S&B. Spend as much money on quality optics as you can afford. You will never regret it.

As for rings/mounts, I use Millet Angle Loc/w Weaver bases or M1913 Picatinny rail base and Talley rings and bases (or Picatinny rail). I like the Picatinny, have found no negatives. The NcStar has Talley QR rings and they are great. So far, no problem at all with zero changing. They are all steel, and that, to me, is a good thing. There are others that are good, some people like aluminum, but these are my favorites. I am sure there are many other opinions...everybody has one.   If you read this forum much, you will see that there is little agreement on which is best, which is good, which is bad. Each eye and pocketbook has its own favorite. If you use adjustable rings, make sure someone very good does the mounting for you. I was instructed by the armorer for the 1980 US Olympic shooting team on their installation. You can mess up very easily with standard rings and bases, much more easily with adjustables. Don't ruin great glass by performing an installation yourself that you are not comfortable/qualified to perform. If you are not comfortable doing it, you are not qualified, sometimes, if you are comfortable, you are still not qualified...get an expert.
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Hmm.. the S&B's are cheaper over here (mostly becuase the company is german) so they're quite a good option.
 
Do you people know anything about the IR sights? i've never used one. Are they worth it?
i tend to lost track of the centre of the recticle over the dark centre of a target...
 
_Kar.
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I have several scopes with illuminated reticles. Once again, a choice you have to make based upon personal experience and intended use. I use the IR sometimes, mostly I don't, but it is there if I want it. You don't HAVE to use it. Good for certain lighting conditions where the reticle is hard to see. I DID have occasion to make a great kill shot on an 8 point buck last year that I possibly would have not tried if I had not had the IR. Since it was there, can't say for sure, but IR sure made the choice easy for me.
Since the S&B's are cheaper for you, can't see why you would not want to just go ahead and get one (I am partial to 6-20x). As I said, I do not believe you will ever regret that choice. There are a number of scope choices I have truly regretted, S&B is not a regret.
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 I love the IR's .... have 2 different ones ... the best is my Monarch ... yep ... in shaded or darker areas they make alot of difference . Sometimes that crosshair gets lost or hard to see on some targets ... not with them .... puts the kill spot right there ! Evenings ... first dawn and under under thick overhead shading or cloudy days .... would'nt leave home without one ! It's the way all will probably come .... when some companies finally give consumers what they should for their money .  Then you have the choice .... why not ... I ask ?
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