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I've got a Bushmaster Varminter on the way and I'm shopping for a scope and accessories for it. The gun will be used mostly for target shooting out as far as I can push the .223, but might go out on a coyote hunt or two.

I'm relatively new to all this, but after my research I've come up with the products below and just wanted to take in anybody's opinion that was kind enough to give it...

Nikon 4-16x42 Monarch w/ BDC Reticle
http://www.swfa.com/pc-8769-2201-nikon-4-16x42-monarch-riflescope.aspx
Is this power and reticle appropriate for my intended uses? I had also considered the Burris Signature Select w/ ballisticplex reticle, but decided on the nikon after reading a bunch of reviews.

Burris Xtreme 1" Tactical Rings
http://www.swfa.com/pc-9073-1228-burris-xtreme-tactical-1-rings.aspx
Are they overkill? Anything bad w/ buying too much ring? They're only $50, and figured they wouldn't hurt. What height would I want though, the gun comes w/ scope risers that can be seen on the black rifle in the pic below...

Just not sure what height rings would be a good combo with those risers.

Harris Bipod
http://www.swfa.com/pc-8057-893-harris-ultralight-1a2-series-bipod.aspx
Standard, good 'nuff... any different Harris model I should look into?

Thanks in advance for your input :)
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Welcome to The OT.
 
The Monarch is a good choice, I think. I did a review of sorts last year on the model your considering.
 
The BDC reticle can, or should be used in conjunction with a range finder to be accurate. I'm not sure you'll have time to call, range, and shoot a moving coyote while using a BDC reticle, so you'll have to decide that for yourself.
You "might" be better served using a 150 yard zero with the Nikoplex reticle and keeping your shots out to 250 yards or so with the .223.
There again, I'm not sure how you intend on hunting coyotes in your area, so take my advise with a grain of salt.   
 
The Burris Extreme rings should be fine, but I'm not sure what size "riser" is on the Bushmaster to recommend ring height. Maybe someone else can chime in on that, but my riser on my AR's flat top is roughly 1" high and I run low Badger and low TPS rings and a VLTOR Modstock and that works real well for my rig.
 
If you go without a riser, you may want to consider Burris high or extra high rings with that rifle/stock combo.
 
I prefer Harris bipods with the "S" or swivel feature for my uses.  
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I do believe you have done some research here Kyle. I would say that will be an excellent set up for the application. Cheaptrick has made a very observation for the needs you will likely encounter. Take his advice and all will be good to go.
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Welcome to The OT.
 

 
The BDC reticle can, or should be used in conjunction with a range finder to be accurate. I'm not sure you'll have time to call, range, and shoot a moving coyote while using a BDC reticle, so you'll have to decide that for yourself.
You "might" be better served using a 150 yard zero with the Nikoplex reticle and keeping your shots out to 250 yards or so with the .223.
There again, I'm not sure how you intend on hunting coyotes in your area, so take my advise with a grain of salt.   
 

 
 


For hunting eastern doggies in MI this is spot on. There isn't a whole lot of time to use the BDC and rangefinding.
The Nikon is certainly good to go from an optics standpoint. I have a couple of Monarchs and I am very happy with the glass, especially for the cost.
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Thanks for the advice guys, I really appriciate it. I'm going to take your advice on everything. I've got the following items in my shopping cart.

Burris Xtreme Tactical 1" Rings - Extra High, 1" Height
Nikon 4-16x42 Monarch Riflescope - Nikoplex Reticle
Harris Ultralight BR Series S Bipod

Before I place my order, do you have a recommendation on a boresighting kit?
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I use a laser boresighter. But you can just remove the bolt and aim the bore at a target that is 50 yrds away and then adjust the crosshairs to be on the target. Shoot at a 25 yard target and work from there to get a zero. Then you should be close enough to zero at your preferred zero yardage.
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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

I use a laser boresighter. But you can just remove the bolt and aim the bore at a target that is 50 yrds away and then adjust the crosshairs to be on the target. Shoot at a 25 yard target and work from there to get a zero. Then you should be close enough to zero at your preferred zero yardage.
 
Little tougher with a AR upper, but the same thing applies. Wink
 
Take your upper off, drop the bolt carrier group and follow cyborgs instructions. I never use laser bore sighters.
 
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For bore sighting the Leupold has done a far better job than the BSA or cheaper Bushnell's I have used.
Apparently the high end Bushnell is good, though. Many gun shops use them.
http://www.swfa.com/p-3659-leupold-zero-point-boresighter.aspx
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Thanks again. Order placed. I'll look into that Leupold boresigher and maybe call in early tomorrow and add it to my order. Thanks!
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do yourself a real favor and get the Magpul adjustable stock, this allows better check weld and small changes in sight alignment without the need to change ring hts.

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Hey guys, just got an email... the 1" height rings are out of stock. Should I get the 1/2" height rings and use the riser blocks that come with the rifle? Or the badger lows that cheaptrick mentioned? They're a bit expensive, but I'll pay for them if they're worth the $$$. I would also need the 1" inserts for those rings since they only come in 30mm.
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I'd go with the factory riser block and 1" Burris Extreme LOW rings, Brother. That way, you can switch the scope over to say a bolt action rifle and still have the correct ring height. Or at least that's what I do.
 
I'd get the 1" Burris Extreme rings rather than the 30mm Badgers and 1" inserts.   
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