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    Posted: January/29/2006 at 08:55

I am looking for a fixed power scope, a 4x32 or 4x36 at the most. I think that i don't need more than 4 for hunting, and fixed power scopes seem less expensive, have a wider field of view, are lighter and smaller. That's what it looks to me, but i am not a specialist and i would welcome your comments.

 

I found that Schmidt and Bender, IOR, Leupold, and Meopta have what seem to be good quality fixed power scopes. I know about Leupold's fine warranty, but what about IOR? Are they any good? Lifetime warranty?

I see Schmidt and Bender 4x36 for $1000. Are they that good? What will i get from them compared to  the $500 scopes? Thank you.



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Welcome.

Yes, S&B are that good!! 

 

I'm not a huge IOR fan, but I do think that their fixed power scopes are very decent, and priced fairly.

 

Do you have a certain budget in mind??  

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well, i was thinking about $500 maximum.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Clifford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/29/2006 at 09:58
The 6x 44 mm Leo has everything your looking for, and in a double blind test comparision the man on the street couldn't tell the difference. Additionally most people can't tell the difference between 4x and 6x.
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Kahles has a 4x36 shown in the SWFA cataloge for ~600.  I think you will get your monies worth from that one. 

 

As to what you get for the extra money.  In the September '05 American Rifleman is a Resovling Power Test Target; an eye chart of sorts.  Take it with you when you look at scopes.  Now, take look at the chart through the scope and not -JUST- through the center, but at -*EDGES*- of the scope.  While we shoot though the center of the scope, we also may move things away from the cross hairs for that last ID (Or why I like a 4a reticle better than a "4 Plex").  On one of the brands you mentioned, things may get a little greyer as you move to the edges. YMMV

 

Want to understand things even better? Go to any major camera store and get a color chart and a grey scale and do the same test. 

 

On a better scope you should get clearer and sharper image even on a cloudy day.  The color should remain truer.  You should be able to pick out details on a single leaf further away.  The images will apear brighter and maybe a bit "warmer" too.

 

Say you have an animal back lite by the sun. You should get less "flare" when you are looking in to the sun from the higher end stuff.  Some of the high dollar stuff has "baffles" machined in to the tube so that it reduces surpious(stray) reflections from inside the tube.  That cost extra.

 

BTW, to help be serious about doing this kind test don't try wearing glasses that looks like they have been through the bead blaster. An eye exam may also be in order.

 

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anweis,  if I were you, I would consider the Schmidt & Bender 4x36 for $699.00 that is on the samplelist.  It looks to be in mint condition.  S&B is just about as good as it gets.
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Thank you for all replies. I will probably wait a few more months and get a S&B or Kahles 4x36. I 've also decided to get a Sako; with a S&B on top, it will fall in my category of "best there is".  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mwyates Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/31/2006 at 08:26
Another vote here for the Leo FXIII 6X42 or the IOR.  A lot of folks here talk about Leupold being overpriced, but they are still bargains compared to S&B, Swaro, and Zeiss (not Conquest).  If you've just got to go Euro, go IOR.
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SAKO ROCKS!!!!! 
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SCHMIDT&BENDER= BEST THERE IS. PERIOD
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Good afternoon,

In Europe nobody knows IOR.
 

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