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Originally posted by danieltex danieltex wrote:



bought from  military source "under the table" way back in 1999.


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Originally posted by danieltex danieltex wrote:

I have just found this quite old thread on the comparison on the various branded "sniper" scopes.
I just thought I would comment as I actually own several of these scopes and can actually talk about them from a factually correct basis as i have them in my hands so to speak rather than made up "facts" and internet rumours.
I also have a background in optical electrical maintenance/engineering so can speak with authority when talking about optical clarity and quality.
I own the following:
16x42 non branded/white box as issued under US navy contract (i.e.tasco contract)
bought from  military source "under the table" way back in 1999.
I have an Edgar brothers 10x42, as SWFA contract 20x42 and just recently purchased a Nikko 16x42 sniper scope that is mint off ebay for silly cheap money.
It is because of this purchase i found this thread.
Here is my 4penneth!
The Tasco and SWFA seem identical. The SWFA does not seem quite as robust as the Tasco and the tube seems not as solid and the scope is physically lighter. That is not to say both aren't as tough as each other, just what i have observed from holding them. The edgar brothers scope is actually slightly heavier by my scales and the finish is slightly better, but despite this seems more fragile. This is probably because of the different contracted finish for a commercial scope rather than the military required finish.The Nikko is identical to the Edgar brothers scope in this regard.

The major difference between the Tasco/SWFA and the Nikko scope is the reticle.
The Nikko/edgar brothers scopes have wire reticles, the Tasco/SWFA glass etched reticles.
This does NOT mean they are any more or less robust. Leupold has used wire reticles in their scopes for decades as have every other manufacturer and only recently adopted glass etched ones to improve robustness in there already legendary tough tactical scopes. In fact glass etched reticles introduce another glass plane to alter and diffuse light in the scope, which wire does not.

All these scopes are either made by Asia optical and/or HAKKO (same factory manufacturer really) if they are made in Japan which ALL of the scope I own are so marked.They are or were all made under contract and the quality of the scopes and the internal and external spec and finish are different as the contract to manufacture them was set to the price per that contract.
SWFA will not and does not hold the design rights to these scopes per se.
I imagine those are held with whoever originated the first contract (Tasco?) or even the US navy as is was there original contract.
They also now do not sell outside of the US (ITAR regulations not withstanding) and if you want one of these scope you either have to sneak one out (!) or buy the alternative branded one if available.

I can see no difference in lens quality or coatings, in fact the Nikko has the slight edge in that regard, which does not surprise me as it is newer and more recently made and lens coatings can degrade over time. As I said i can only compare what I have in my hands.
All have decent optical quality, but none in the same class as say Schmidt and Bender, Swarovski or even Leupold and Burris scopes that I have compared them to.

For the money these scope are some of the best scopes you can get. They are tough, do the job and stay zeroed. So far the wire reticles have not broken. Yes, i do not have a .50 cal to really test them, but i do have a .308  and a .303 that are not light recoiling and have put many rounds downrange so far with no problems.
Yes I would choose a glass reticle scope if given the option, but to say the Non tasco/swfa scope are inferior is not either correct or fair. I would say they are the commercial version of the original Tasco sniper scope. They were never intended to be dropped from an aircraft, or submersed whilst exiting a sub on a SEAL team mission, but probably will survive being dropped out the back of your truck which is most likely the worst that will happen to it in civilian hands.




This is so full of misinformation and out right false comments that it is not worthy of my time to correct them all.

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That's why I didn't even comment on it... however, since I'm here... "HOGWASH"...
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Wait, wait wait, are you saying the new guy's surreptitious acquisition of a secret navy contract scope is deceptive?

Regardless of your interpretation of the rest, "legendary tough tactical scopes" must not be overlooked. At any price!

Carry on.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Regardless of your interpretation of the rest, "legendary tough tactical scopes" must not be overlooked. At any price!

Carry on.

There's tough and then there's "legendary" tough. I prefer, no insist, all my scopes fall into the latter category. Weight Lifter


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I just picked up A SWFA SS 10x42 it has a very fine Mil Dot, and this scope has been used effectively atop a M1A at 1000 yards.
Reading all the comments in this thread and on many other forums, all I can glean is that people love this scope but can't admit it,  OMG it's a TASCO, it is a great scope inexpensive and gets the job done.
It is a proven scope with  field use.
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Tasco was i beleive the second or third owner of the design. Swfa bought the rights to it and have improved it in most areas. IIRC Tasco started to cut corners from the original design and turned it into a POS like most of their scopes. But now they are excellemt scopes. The HD SS scopes are even better
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So…
 Are the Nikko Sterling and the SS the same??? Made by the same company??? 

Just wondering...
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You would think that answer is available
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