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Thanks to all that replied in my previous rifle post, very informative.  Now, after further researching, my budget is no more than $550 and I am leaning to the following rifles in order of preference:

 

- Savage 14 Classic .270wsm

- Howa 1500 JRS .270wsm

- Weatherby Vanguard .270wsm

 

I only hear great things about the Savage, i.e. it's factory pillar bedded and barrell is free floated and they shoot sub moa's out of the box.  My concern about Savage after looking at one at a local Sports Authority is that the bolt almost touches the scope on the bolt throw.  Will that be a problem w/ my Sightron Sii 3-9x42 scope, since every scope and mount is different?

 

- Also, am I getting the most rifle for my $550 budget if I get the Savage?

 

Thank you,

Sean

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All three are excellent rifles.  First, I would handle each and see which one fits you the best with respect to LOP and just how it feels against your shoulder and the weight of the rifle.  I personally prefer the Wby. Vanguard sporter which can be had from www.reedssports.com for 489.99.  The stock is better finished and personally, I believe the action is more precise.  If you were gettin a varminter, then the Savage would be the one to go with.  The Howa is essentially the same as the Wby., but the stock on the Wby. is finished much nicer.  Of course it is not a laminate, like the Howa and that comes down to choice.  The shortest bolt throws will come on the Browning A-bolt at 60 degrees and the Wby. Mark V at 54 degrees.  All of the rifles should be similar with respect to their bolt throws.  Look around, you might find a Browning or Wby. Mark V discounted into your price range, but in a synthetic stock, given the caliber you have chosen.
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Hello 8Runner

 

My pick out of the three goes to the Savage 14, you should not have any problem with the bolt and

the SII 42mm scope.

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If you are dead set on one of those three, get the savage.

 

if you are open to suggestions, try the tikka T3 (they have sako, hand-crowned barrels) -

the action (bolt throw) and two-stage trigger are the best out of the box for under 600 bucks.

at least put on in your hands before commiting - they are GUARANTEED to shoot sub moa out of the box.

 

i have one and love it - but i have shot a number of savages that were good too - but none as smooth as the T3.

 

good luck.

 

J

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The Tikka is nice.  For the money, until I get my Tikka, which hopefully should be today, the best bang for the buck, if you want a wooden and I mean a beautiful stock is the Weatherby Vanguard sporter and you can put the extra cash into ammo and other goodies.  I own Savages, Vanguards and Howas and like them all, but the customer service at Wby. is stellar and I cannot imagine it could be bested by anyone else.  As I have said on other posts, I have talked directly to the main office multiple time about a variety of questions, always get the same pleasant secretary, who forwards me to who I need to speak with or give me a 1-800 number to call back with and how long to wait.  The guys spend all the time I want.  I bought an Accumark 30-378 used and thought I did not get the accubrake wrench (I actually did) and called them and they sent one to me, for free.  I thought for sure I would have to pay at least 10 bucks or the S/H.  I have called about tech. info, models, custom shop info., info on the need for accurizing and to have an old Vanguard bolt recall taken care of, which they did expediently, even paying for S/H of me sending the bolt to them.  I have never been put off or felt as though I was a nuisance.  That is the way to run a buisness.  I have called othe rifle manufactures, who are much larger and have been transferred from one operator to another and have ended up with guys who act like, why are you even calling me.  Rs.  Even though, I love their rifles.  Just a thought.

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dolphin, you better post something when you get that rifle !!!

 

i'll convert you if you aren't careful !!!

 

what are you putting on top of that 22-250?

 

J

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It's a 25-06 and a Sightron SII 4x12 42mmAO is going on top.  It was suppose arrive yesterday, but a buddy of mine who holds the FFL, must be out, because he has not called.  I am going to give him a call in a little while, as I wanted to take it out tomorrow.  I will give you guys a thorough and unbiased review.  I like all the brands that I own, but I love great customer service.
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yeah, customer service is hard to find these days

 

just like gas stations, small grocery stores, and hunting/gun stores - i don't mind spending a bit more

to get service and support a good family business. 

 

we are in FULL agreement there.  Tikka/Berretta(importer) isn't a family business, but i have gotten decent support there.

 

Looking forward to your review. 

 

J

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Just got an e-mail that the rifle has arrived at the FFL holder.  I am going to try my best to get it today and mount the scope.
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Dolphin, my brother picked up a T3 in .243 and loves it. He is getting 1/2" groups with some factory ammo. He put a VXII 3X9 on it and isn't happy, though. He already has a Conquest on another predator rifle so I can't figure that one out. Also, he sold me his Remington M7 in .260 to get that T3. Looks like he's going to get more Tikka's and I will benefit by getting more great deals on his Remington's.
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Right now I am bidding on SigArms SHR 970 with 270win and 280Rem barrels on auction arms.  They are sweet rifles also.  I am almost tempted to hit the buy now button.  I have been wanting a 280Rem, I have a 270win, in guess what, a Howa, stainless steel, that I picked up brand new for about 350 on one of these sites and it shoots great, so the 270win is just gravy.  Will see.  By the way, please don't run up the bid.Smile
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Let us know the final bid. Those are real nice rifles. One of these days I'll buy something other than Big Green. I'm sure it won't be a Sig at first. Between all my my M700's and 870's has been a lot of meat and wall hangers. Change is slow for me.
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I grew up a Remington man and to this day am loyal to those guns.  I still have the 1100 I got from Santa Claus when I was about 11 and it is in mint condition.  I just bought a new barrel with a rem choke for it.  I think the next christmas I got and still have my 742 BDL Deluxe in a 30-06, that is in mint condition and own various other Remingtons. 
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