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    Posted: February/26/2007 at 18:20

Hey:

 

I have a new savage 12FV in .223 waiting in the box. I Just ordered a Bushnell 3200 5x15 50mm and leupold rings.

I can t wait to get home to set it up. Anyone have one of these rifles? What can i expect for Acurracy with factory ammo? What about the Accu Trigger, good set up, is it awkward with gloves on. I like good glass and I have seen some good posts on the bushnell elite, any input is appreciated. Should i go with a high or med ring for this setup

(leupold standard rings n bases)?

 

This forum is top notch, very good info.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote weeds Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/26/2007 at 22:06
My buddy has one of these, and I've personally seen him shoot less than an inch group at 200 yds. Heck, the first shot I ever took with it was at 200, and I even hit under an inch from dead center. PM CarnageZ28, he'll tell you about the gun.
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What kind of glass is he runnin on top of it

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I have essentially the same rifle, except the low profiler version in a 22-250 and in I remember correctly, with a Mueller Eraticator scope on top, up to 24x power.  My son has the same rifle in a synthetic stock with a stainless barrel in the .223.  Both are tack drivers right out of the box shooting less than .75 and closer to 0.5 MOA at 100 yards depending on what ammo you feed them.  Probably the most accurate rifle out of the box and probably one of the most accurate rifle regardless of money, whether custom or non-custom.  You just cannot get any better.  That imo.

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capergriz, i think you don't have anything to worry about. good gun.

 

from my experience and from what others have said, most savages aren't AS finicky about bullets as some makes.

 

hornady is always IMO a good factory round, as well as some federal ammo.  Try the hornady sst's or BTSP's if they are available.

they should print just fine.

 

good luck and let us know when you have a range report.

 

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thanks guys:

got another 3 weeks in west africa before i can get home to git r done. I had a golf ball makin a monkey out of me at 100 YDS with my 308 TIKKA. this rig should even the score for me.

 

Thanks for the info

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I own a version of that gun in 22-250 and it shoots great.  I guy I know has the 223 one and he swears by Black Hills blue box 68gr round.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I own a version of that gun in 22-250 and it shoots great.  I guy I know has the 223 one and he swears by Black Hills blue box 68gr round.

ILya

Have you tried the Black Hills ammo in your 22-250?  If so, what type of groups are you getting?  I would like to work up some loads for mine and if you are getting great groups, I might start with a similar load.  Oh yea, I have to buy the reloading dies first, I do not have those yet.



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I've tried the 50gr V-Max Black Hills Gold load in my 22-250 and it is about 0.6-0.7 MOA in my hands.  I suspect it would do better if someone else was shooting, since I am not a very good shot.

Black Hills blue box is only available in 223.  These are remanufactured loads and they are a fair bit cheaper than new production stuff, but nearly as accurate in my experience.  After some experimentation, I settled on Black Hills blue box for my little Kel-tec SU-16.  It shoots 60grSP, 60gr Partitions and 60gr VMax to almost the same POI out to 300 yards with pretty decent accuracy (1.5-2MOA).

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unfortunately in eastern canada we have a limited selection of .223 ammo. I talking the 40 rnd winny varmint packs at wally world(the price is right). I m lookin at getting back into reloading. how does the .223 go with handloads, it is a small cartridge and kooks like it could be a bit akward with extruded powder, small primers etc. the savage chamber is it tight or would there be issues trying to eliminate freebore.

 

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Hey, Im the one Weeds was talking about.

 

My gun is a .223 12FV, Non Accu-Trigger, but I have the trigger down to 2lbs, clean, and crisp.  Only mod to gun.  My gun shoots the 50 grain V-Max's from Black Hills ( Blue Box - Reloads ) really well.  When me and him had it at the range, I was shooting 7/8" center to center groups at 200 yards.  And at the time, I still had the scope on it that came with the gun as their so-so combo.  A Simmons 8-Point 4-12X40.  And yes, it was really tough seeing well enough with that scope to shoot groups like that.  I actually just threw a Swift 6-24X50 on it for this weekend, so I can post up on here once we get back on Sunday and let you guys know how it shoots.  I know it has more in it with the higher magnification/clearer glass.  When I was shooting at 200 with the Simmons, I could get 2-3 to almost touch, and then one out of my group would be a flier and cause it to jump up from a 3/8"-1/2" group to close to an inch at 200 yards. 

 

O and in a couple weeks, my Monarch should be in so I will post in the scopes section comparing it to my Swift.  Cause Swift makes some AWESOME scopes for the $$$. 

 

And FWIW, my gun:

 

Shoots Federal Varmint/Target Hollow points 1"ish at 100 yards

Shoots Win. Supreme. Ballistic Silver Tips 1" at 100 yards

Shoots Black Hills 50 Grain V-Max's ragged 1-holes at 100 yards.


Basically I quit trying different ammo out of it once I used the Black Hills stuff, but Gander Mountain is carrying some new Black Hills 55 grain FMJ's that are half the price so I am gonna try to get a box for Sunday and see how they shoot.  If their as accurate, theyll make a great new practice round.

 

 

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Hey Carnage

 

Thanks for the info, i can t wait to get this thing tooled up. gonna be usin mostly store bought ammo until i get a reloadin setup goin . that blackhills stuff sounds good but we don t see it in the great white north. I ll be postin in about 3 weeks when i get back home with the range report.

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Pick ammo that suits your barrel twist rate.

I have an RRA AR with a 1in8 twist and realized it shoots heavier bullets better

Black Hills bluebox 68gr are good and HSM 77gr bt are just automatic....sub moa on every 5-shot group.

Black Hills 52gr match hp are good but 55gr fmj is random.

If you want to shoot the 40-50gr bullets, get faster twist.

Good luck. 

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The 12FV should have a 1-9" twist rate.  Mine shoots lighter bullets well, but of all the light bullets, the only ones it shoots awesome are the Black Hills 50 grain V-Max's ... I never tried any of the heavier ones since it was a Varmint gun, and I wanted the V-Max bullet, but I may give the FMJ's, 52 Gr Match, and 68Grainers ... If I do, Ill make a thread on it.

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