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I am somewhat new to hunting and shooting. I jumped on an opportunity and bought someone's collection of 56 newer mix of bolt rifles shotguns and ar's. The rifles and ar's have all different brands of scopes I am going to take all of the scopes off and give them to the local youth shooting and hunting clubs.

So, my question is to replace the scopes with the same brand with consistent features from model to model? I do not want to try and memorizedozen brand features.

Any suggestions?
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I'm a little confused with your question. Do you want one brand of scope with the same features for all the different rifles?
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 It's certainly a very nice gesture to donate them to local youth clubs Excellent. Regarding the scope choices, that will vary depending upon usage intentions and $ considerations. In many scenarios, AR's, shotguns and rifles may require totally different optics...but keeping them all Leupold for example is certainly doable. 
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

 It's certainly a very nice gesture to donate them to local youth clubs Excellent. Regarding the scope choices, that will vary depending upon usage intentions and $ considerations. In many scenarios, AR's, shotguns and rifles may require totally different optics...but keeping them all Leupold for example is certainly doable. 



Yes, that was my question.
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Originally posted by pc4life pc4life wrote:


So, my question is to replace the scopes with the same brand with consistent features from model to model?



What features do you want?
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:


Originally posted by pc4life pc4life wrote:


So, my question is to replace the scopes with the same brand with consistent features from model to model?



What features do you want?



Not sure, I would think simpler the better? The scopes I have now on collection- a dozen different brands some of which I have never heard of like Kahles Conquest Euro Minox Meopo and so on. About every one of them have really busy crosshairs which I don't like.

Like I said I am new to this and want to start ground up make any sense?
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well, taking the reticle out of the equasion, you can buy the same scope with a different reticle, i'd look through them all, throughout their power range, indoors and outdoors, in daylight, fading light, and night time, and decide which brands you enjoy the most... then look at that brand on their websites, or one like swfa, and decide which reticle you would enjoy more.


BUT, an important part of the issue is missing here... which weapons do you plan on doing what with?  if you have 3-4 different tactical weapons, will they be for plinking, coyote hunting, p-dog exploding?  any of those applications could benefit from different types of scopes, or maybe no scope at all (iron sights). 

if you have several bolt guns, the chamberings (calibers) would more or less identify what type of game you should or could hunt with them, and based on that you might need different types of scopes.

of the high end glass, it seems like people who like swarovski, kahles, zeiss, leica differentiate between them most by personal preference.  any scope that you pay more than 1,000$ for should have solid optics, reliable guts and a bulletproof warantee.

one of the more prominant posters here, Ilya, does some pretty in-depth reviews of all different brands and types of scopes... many of his reviews are posted here (for rifle scopes) http://opticsthoughts.com/index.php/rifle-scopes


I think if you were interested in beginning hunting, I'd ask someone you know who hunts, or a gunsmith you might know, to have a look at the collection and talk to you about what you want to hunt, and where, and decide from the rifles present, which would suit that purpose best.  then you will have a rifle, in a particular caliber and a probably range and light condition with which you can better decide on what type and brand of scope you'd like and with which reticle.






Edited by Dyelynn - September/26/2012 at 14:28
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Those are some very very nice scopes. The Kahles is an excellent scope and just about any other scope you buy will be a step down at the very least. The Conquest is made by Zeiss.

Since you are new and not sure about what you like I would not get rid of any of them just yet. Simple is not always better. It depends on what you are going to do with that rifle. Those marks below the center cross hairs allow you to shoot at longer distances without having to adjust the scope for those distances and the marks to either the right or left allow you to adjust for windage without adjusting the scope. For me I like that in a hunting scope I feel it is quicker for me anyway. But it is all personal preference.

To give you an idea of where the scopes you have rank here is a link to the SWFA scope rating scale. And not all scopes are listed. But that does not mean they are no good. I believe the Minox is not listed and I would put it slightly below the Zeiss Conquest.

http://www.opticstalk.com/topic16515&KW=scope+rating_post194417.html#194417
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PC, kudos to you for donating to youth programs!ExcellentExcellent
As far as the ones with the reticles you dont like, you could always just donate those to me Wink.
You do of course realize that replacing 56+ scopes could turn into some serious money right?
What is the budget for this project? what features do you like in a scope? what is your intended purpose?
Are you thinking buy all the scopes one brand, same size and features?
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Originally posted by tman1965 tman1965 wrote:

PC, kudos to you for donating to youth programs!ExcellentExcellent
As far as the ones with the reticles you dont like, you could always just donate those to me Wink.
You do of course realize that replacing 56+ scopes could turn into some serious money right?
What is the budget for this project? what features do you like in a scope? what is your intended purpose?
Are you thinking buy all the scopes one brand, same size and features?


I figure I will go with one firearm at a time. I already said I will give the scopes away - its a good cause we need to get more of the youth involved in this sort of thing.

I don't know what all of these dots circles and lines represent nor do I have the time to figure them out on a dozen different brands. I think its best to pick out a brand that will basically encompass all of the firearm's. Someone recommended a brand above guess I will start there.
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Its a long story that I will not bore you with on how I came across this collection and on a fixed income I acquired it. The main purpose I bought into something like this because of the upcoming election and assault on gun ownership now days. I might be able to some around my area.
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If it were me I would go with Leupold too they have a wide range of optics for all kinds of uses with reasonable cost and the CS is stellar.

http://www.nrahq.org/hunting/yhec/index.asp

Might want to check if they have something in your area if you didn't already know of them. Good outfit.

Edited by rustic - September/26/2012 at 18:10
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It does not sound like you are an experienced shooter. What is your level of experience and what distance do you wish to shoot.  If for example you do not wish to shoot past two hundred yards you could put this same scope on every rifle.
Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope Red Triangle Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - TR24R
  • Matte
  • Red Triangle
  • 30mm
$844.95 
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If you want to shoot 0 to 600 yds you could put this scope on every rifle :
SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42MQ
  • Matte
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95 
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If you wanted to shoot 0 to 1000+ you could put this scope on every rifle:
SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQ
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,299.95 
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If you want a really basic scope this would be a fine choice.  Zero the crosshair at 200 and see if the marks below center are not close to 300, 400 and 500 where the line gets heavy.
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope Long Range Duplex Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66820
  • Matte
  • Long Range Duplex
  • 1"
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
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People put different scopes on different rifles because they choose to use them differently.  A guy may have a long range rifle like a .308 or 300 WM with a  scope like the 5-20x50 SS and decide to put a 1-4 Trijicon on their AR-15 or put an aimpoint Comp M4s on it.
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