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Greetings from Tasmania (again),

 

I am not sure where to place this post but I am looking for an after - market trigger unit for my Sako 75 in .223 Remington.

 

I am not even sure that they are available.

 

Can any one help, please?

 

Many thanks.Confused

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I don't know of any, but what do y ou want to archive with a new trigger?

 

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if you have an "A" action you can buy a timney
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I would agree with Tecknika, why do you need a new trigger? I have a Sako 75 and it has one of the best factory triggers made. I also have a Timney on a Mauser. Both are very good and very similiar. The Timney can prehaps be set to a little less pull, but I still leave it at about 3 pounds as it is a hunting rifle.
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To my knowledge, there is no aftermarket trigger available for the Sako 75.  The "A" action pyro6999 refers to is the 2-lug Sako with the bolt guide rib offered prior to the 75.  The 75 has now been replaced by the new M85 action.  The Sako 75/85 trigger is an excellent factory trigger that is adjustable down to about 2 lbs, which is as light as you should ever need for a typical hunting rifle.
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IMHO...The Sako 75 needs NO other trigger.

 

Mine was damn near like a match trigger with the factory unit.

Not sure why you would bother switching, my friend.

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Hi guys,

 

Many thanks for your replies.

 

I agree, the weight of pull is quite good but I find the "overtravel/backlash" a little off-putting after the Canjar triggers on my M700's.

 

Maybe I am being a little harsh & should simply adapt to what is otherwise a good trigger?

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Originally posted by 2506 2506 wrote:

I agree, the weight of pull is quite good but I find the "overtravel/backlash" a little off-putting after the Canjar triggers on my M700's.

 

The Sako 75 trigger has adjustment for overtravel as well.

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Hi RifleDude,

 

Many thanks for reply.

 

I am unaware that the 75 trigger is adjustable for overtravel /backlash. Sounds like the solution.

Would you describe how I am able to adjust it, please?

 

 

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by 2506 2506 wrote:

I agree, the weight of pull is quite good but I find the "overtravel/backlash" a little off-putting after the Canjar triggers on my M700's.

 

The Sako 75 trigger has adjustment for overtravel as well.

 

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Actually, 2506 is correct.  Sorry for the confusion, 2506.  I had just finished adjusting the trigger on my brother's A-series Sako (the Sako bolt action prior to intro of the M75) and I had it confused in my mind with the M75 trigger on my last post.  The A-series trigger is fully adjustable for creep, overtravel, and pull weight, but the 75 trigger is adjustable only for weight.  Plus, my 75's trigger has so very minimal overtravel that I naturally assumed I had adjusted it, as one of the very first things I do to almost all my personal rifles right out of the box is adjust, work over, or replace the triggers.  The 75's trigger housing has a mechanical block that prevents the sear from pivoting forward very far after it disengages from the sear block, so there isn't much overtravel with the 75 trigger design, but there is a little overtravel.  Since mine is so crisp and set at 2 lbs, I just never found the tiny amount of overtravel to be objectionable.

 

Having said that, 2506, if you're really concerned with overtravel with this trigger design, there is a fairly easy way to reduce it anyway.  If you look at the round window in the 75 trigger housing, you can see the sear engagement and the stop for the sear that stops trigger movement after the shot breaks.  Using different thickness shim stock, slide a piece of the shim into this window up against the stop, in front of the sear and dry fire the action repeatedly until you find the right shim thickness for minimum overtravel, without preventing the trigger from firing.  The shim will reduce the space between the sear in the cocked position and the stop in full trigger travel position.  Once you find the right thickness shim, cut off a small piece and carefully epoxy it against the stop.  You will need to remove the trigger housing to glue the shim in place.  Be careful not to let any of the epoxy drip into the workings of the trigger, or you'll lock it up.

 

Also, I did discover that Jard makes an aftermarket trigger for the M75 that is adjustable down to 1 lb.

http://www.jardinc.com/Sako.htm

You can also get this trigger from Brownells (scroll down to bottom of page):

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/ProductDetail.aspx?p= 20707

Again, I still believe for a hunting rifle, the factory Sako 75 trigger is as good as it gets with factory triggers, and I would only replace it if for some reason I were using the action as the basis for a varmint rifle and I didn't have the excellent 2-stage version Sako used on the 75 varmint.

 

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Greetings RifleDude,

 

Sincere thanks for advice re adjusting the 75 trigger - I will give it a try.

 

My trigger does not have a lot of  overtravel but I would like to get rid of the little it has as all my other triggers are fine.

 

Once again, many thanks.

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Keep us posted on how everything works out for you, 2506.  BTW -- my Sako 75 happens to be in .25-06.  Based on your handle, is this what yours is chambered in as well?

 

Good shooting!

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Hi again,

 

No, my  Sako 75 is a Stainless/Timber .223 Remington sporter weight which thrives on a  load that has served me well for many years - 23 grains of Australian ADI 2207 with a 50 Sierra Blitz seated to just contact the lands.

 

However, I must admit to having a personal fovourite in the 25/06. I have used the 25/06 since about 1967/68 both here in Australia & South Africa with very satisfactory results. Currently I am using a custom 25/06 Ackley Improved on one of my M700 actions (110 Accubond at 3496 FPS from a  27" sporter weight barrel).

 

I managed to take a quite nice Fallow stag & a Fallow doe with this bullet & am simply astounded by the results !!!

 

The stag was running at about 120 - 130 yards & simply disappeared when I fired.The doe was standing at 280 yards (on my Leica10 x 42 BRF) & she too simply folded on the spot, hit in the lower chest.

 

Finally, I will definitely keep you posted re my Sako 75 trigger work.   

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Have you progressed with the trigger work? I have a Sako Finnbear with a trigger pull that is very hard. Currently at 1.4kg (3.08lbs). I had the rifle at a gunsmith and he says it cannot be adjusted lighter. I find the rifle unshootable on paper targets. It is a 300 H&H. I just don't know when it is going to break and it is hard not to flinch with this calibre.

I am now looking at a replacement trigger. I will probably have to go for a Timney trigger.

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Hi 8shots,

 

I have tinkered a little more with the trigger & am reasonably content with it now.It trips just on 19 oz using my Lyman guage - which is light enough with very little creep.

 

I managed this with a spring replacement & some VERY careful adjustment & yes, the safety does work ok.

 

I have used Timney triggers in various makes of rifles in the past & have found them excellent units. The Sako trigger replacement is very good !!!!

 

Lots of luck.

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Thanks for the reply. I have phoned our local Timney dealer and guess what, they do not have a Sako trigger in stock. Will take a month (read 3) to get one.

So I will phone around a bit and then may have try adjusting myself.

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8shots,

 

As I said earlier, I have found the Timney's to be really good triggers without going "over the top" with price.

 

All Timneys that I have used came with clear & concise instructions as to how they should be fitted & adjusted if necessary.

 

I really do not think that you will go wrong if you go down the Timney path.

 

Again, good luck - keep us posted. 

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Hi 2506, Thanks for your interest.

After phoning around most suppliers/gunsmith I drew a blank on the Timney trigger. Most guys wanted to know why on earth do I want to change a Sako trigger for a Timney!

Anyway, a gunsmith in the beautifull valley of Paarl (outside Cape Town) is a Sako appointed gunsmith. I have just returned from visiting him. There are problems on my trigger mechanism. Amongst others the back-lash screw is missing.

So he is putting in a new sear kit and gurantees to return it at 2.2 lbs (1kg).

So I wait and see. I will only get it back around Thursday/Friday.

How is the hunting in your part of the world?

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8shots,

 

Glad to hear that your problem is solved.

 

As to hunting over here, I live in Tasmania where we can only hunt one species of deer - Fallow. It is pretty good hunting though with most seasons seeing one or two 240 - 250 Douglas score stags taken in the wild.

Other than that we can hunt wallaby, duck, rabits & hares.

I remember hunting in Natal where I shot several springhares which appeared to be a cross between a normal English hare & a wallaby !! Very strange creatures.

 

We do not have the abundance of game that you have - nor is it as dangerous.However it is still lovely being able to simply go into the bush & hunt.

 

 

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Yes, South Africa is great. Allthough our average hunts are not all the scary stuff you read about. On most farms the big five are not present. But we have an abundance of good game to select from. My favourite is Kudu. Hence the Sako 300H&H as a big bull can be quite a tough animal to put down.

We have fallow deer that has been introduced many years ago.

Herewith my fallow deer and kudu.

 



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Beautiful animals, 8shots!!

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Thanks Cheaptrick. Did not mean to hi-jack the thread, but could not resist.

Will keep to Sako trigger discussion!!!

Will post outcome once I receive my rifle back from gunsmith

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Yes, very beautiful animals, 8 shots!  You're lucky to have a large variety of game animals to hunt, my friend!

 

Glad to hear you got your Sako trigger to your liking, 2506!



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I had the rifle returned from the gunsmith. He had set it at 2,5lbs, but it did not hold the setting for long. I fiddled with it for hours myself. Pulled the whole thing apart. No go. I think being an old rifle it has worn away or something. The safety catch is also suspect. So only one thing left, replacement trigger.

We have an engineering company in Johannesburg that makes Timney type triggers. Will try them.

Thanks for your advice. Will keep you posted.

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