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So....you've spent a small fortune on quality optics as well as good rifles. What brand of safe do you own and why? How big of one did you get?---Bboy623
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You need to get what meets your needs and to do that you need to assess what risk you are guarding against.  If this is for your personal firearms you need to not only select a model based on size but on what you are protecting them from some safes are fire rated some are not.  A real Pro can get into any of them with enough time but the average burglar can not get into most of them.  Browning makes a lot of them and once you are over 550 lbs  then that is the minimum level the military requires to secure a military weapon like an M9 that has been hand recipted for special purposes like competitions.  A true weapons vault is a heavy reinforced concrete structure with dehumidifier and drain plumbed in with alarm systems for entry and fire and camera systems watching it with armed personnel able to respond rapidly.  Somewhere between that minimum and that maximum you will find what works for you.   The lighter  stuff is really - gun boxes - designed to prevent  unathorised access buy children.
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Yukon Gold 24 gun..not the most secure safe out there but has a fire rating of 30 min @1200 degrees F, and it keeps my three year old boy out of it.      I like it.

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A little advice though is to get a little bigger safe than what you think you actually need.  You will be very surprised at how quickly they seem to fill up.

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Originally posted by bbush bbush wrote:

A little advice though is to get a little bigger safe than what you think you actually need.  You will be very surprised at how quickly they seem to fill up.

 
  +2 on that.
 I have a Champion that is supposed to hold 24 long guns but the only way to do that is to remove the scopes. I bought what I thought at the time to be plenty big enough but soon found out I needed more room, so I am now looking for another one.This next one is going to be for home defense guns and set up in my bedroom.
 16" ar,    308model 10fp-20" barrel, 12 guage short barrel with red dot sight, and then a few hand guns of different calibers, and at least 100 rounds of ammo for each gun.
 I am not paranoid but with home invassions, burgaleries, and the plane and simple truth that it takes the average P.D 20 minutes to respond to such calls I would rather be safe than sorry. My family comes first.
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Originally posted by bbush bbush wrote:

A little advice though is to get a little bigger safe than what you think you actually need.  You will be very surprised at how quickly they seem to fill up.

Yeah, and they are like tents....they don't 'sleep' nearly as many guns as they advertise.
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Liberty 31- gun safe. 1 hour @ 1200 rating. I like it, it's nice, but I wish I had enough room for a 100 + sized safe.

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Dead space between some wall studs?
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Liberty safe --like it ,.,and yes, they never hold what they are supposedly rated for

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I use the el-cheepo stackon safes, but they are in an secured room in the basement.  I'm not real concerned about fire, but I am concerned for my teenage daughter and her friends.
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Sturdy Safe 3224 7 gauge http://www.sturdysafe.com/model3224.htm
I bought mine 3 years ago for $800.00 shipped on sale before he became popular. He has it listed at twice that now before shipping.

It's not a looker but it's all security all the time.
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Custom build "room" safe. Sentry vault door with day lock and combination.  Walls and ceiling treated with 14 gauge steel all around and fire resistant insulation. Concrete floor.  Shelves to hold long guns and handguns.  Currently holding mine and my dads guns along with some others.  Housing right at 100 total and not even 1/4 full.  Cost about 10 to build and haven't second guessed it yet.
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+1 on getting one bigger than you think you'll need.  You will wind up putting important papers and other things in there too, once you have one.
 
A good trick is to add weight by putting bags of shot in the bottom.  This makes it easier for YOU to move the safe, but much harder for a bad guy to move the safe. 
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when i build my house im going to use icf walls and in the middle of the house im going to build a room that will act as a tornado shelter/ bomb shelter/ gun safe/ reloading room. and then it will have cement walls and ceiling and a browning vault door. i figured that would serve a lot of purposes.
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Safe from a jewlery store that went out of business, super tough 8 layer walls, removed shelves and plenty of room for rifles
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

when i build my house im going to use icf walls and in the middle of the house im going to build a room that will act as a tornado shelter/ bomb shelter/ gun safe/ reloading room. and then it will have cement walls and ceiling and a browning vault door. i figured that would serve a lot of purposes.

That is the construction I have.  Walls including brick and air barrier are 23in thick.  Plus, this is mounted on top...


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Originally posted by Longhunter Longhunter wrote:

+1 on getting one bigger than you think you'll need.  You will wind up putting important papers and other things in there too, once you have one.
 
A good trick is to add weight by putting bags of shot in the bottom.  This makes it easier for YOU to move the safe, but much harder for a bad guy to move the safe. 

How heavy do you need your safe to be?

Mine weighs around 800lbs empty, plus I drilled a few holes to attach it to the concrete slab the house sits on.

ILya
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

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How hard is it to put them together?
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

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How hard is it to put them together?

Very easy with two people.

ILya
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Those Zanotti armor ones look pretty nice, it is a huge bonus being able to put them together and take them apart...I have helped my friend move his three dam times and his weighs 800 pounds=pain in the back.  If you want to sacrifice a small amount of room for a better fire rating all you need to do is drywall the inside and cover the drywall with whatever fabric choice suites you, or leave it bare.
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yea, I REALLY like the Liberty safes. I looked at some Heritage safes earlier this week and they were nice but pricey. I definitely want fire proof and would even like to have a flood resistant as I live in a hurricane area. I'm gonna go to a gun show in Raleigh coming up and hopefully the Liberty dealer thats always up there will have some decent prices. My biggest problem is where to put it...or should I say where the Mrs. will let me put it! ha----Bboy623
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I bought a Heritage. 72 inches tall, 30 something inches wide, and 28 inches deep. 1200 pounds worth. I'd like to see any 4 cats drag that off. I've had it for several years. No problems with the electronic keypad or locking mechanism. Very good safe and excellent customer service. It got scratched once being moved and Heritage had the touch-up paint in my mailbox 2 days later free of charge.
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Pyro, an option that I've seen when building a house is: When you pour your foundation, most people don't excavate under their front stoop.  If you excavate under this, you basically have vault surrounded and encapsulated in concrete. Just place a steel or vault door that leads from the basement to the front stoop and your set up, concrete on all six sides.

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When buying a safe, pick the one you want and then seriously consider going one size larger. I made that mistake 20 years ago. Bought a nice 14 gun, 800#, 1200*/60min fire rated, blah, blah, safe. Throughout the years I've found no way could I ever put 10+ scoped rifles into it and be able to easily pull one out to use. Now that my daughter's ready to branch out into some larger calibers, I'm going to have to start thinking about an upgrade.  Big Smile






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