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After reading many positive comments about these two makes of rings/bases, I decided to check them out for myself.
They are indeed very nice looking setups. However, on both of the companys' the websites they don't really offer that
much information about how the rings are actually put together. So I'm intrigued as to how they work, since the rings
appear to be solid. How do you get the rings around the scope? If anyone with experinece with S & K and Conetrol
wouldn't mind comparing and contrasting the mechanics of the two, I would appreciate it. TIA
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http://www.conetrol.com/mounting_tips.htm

 

This help??

 

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Thank you for that information.

Conetrol's site is a bit more informative than S & K's. Let me be a little more specific about some questions:

1. It seems that the Conetrol's rings are in three parts: two side parts and a cap. What holds the cap on?

2. Are the S & K rings one piece?

3. On the "Custum" Conetrol rings, there is a screw that allows the rings to be fixed around the scope so that you can
remove the scope from the bases with the rings intact. Is it possible to do this with S & K setup?

Thank you.
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From Mr. George Miller of Conetrol:

 

There is a male circular dovetail cut on the ring halves and a female circular dovetail cut into the bottom of the cap.  When the ring halves are around a scope tube and pushed together at the top, the cap will go on.  Then when the ring halves are pushed together at the bottom, the top spreads and 'hooks' the the cap to pull it down into flush contact with the ring halves.
 
Cone screws going into the sides of the base are tightened to pull the ring down flat on top of the base.  And the cone screws can move either ring side to side for windage adjustment.  Dual ring adjustment means the scope can remain centered after adjustment, not possible for single ring moving found on other systems.
 
Will there be anything else, Sir??    
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ah i see. good info. thank you!
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Welcome, Jeff!

 

I have both Conetrol and S&K rings on several rifles.  They are similar in that they both use cone point setscrews to secure the rings in the bases, which also allows for some self-alignment of the rings, as well as individual windage adjustment on both front and back.

 

The Conetrol, as mentioned, is a 3 piece ring, with the right and left side halves held together by dovetail grooves which engage the top cap.  These rings are extremely well-machined and finished!  In fact, they are so well-made that when properly installed, you can barely see the seam between the ring halves and the cap.  They are the best finished rings you can buy, period.  The tradeoff is that they're also among the most expensive rings you can buy as well, especially if you get the "Custum" versions.

 

The S&K rings are 1-piece, essentially steel "straps" -- and you simply bend the rings around the scope tube until the integral ring posts join together at the bottom and insert the posts into the bases, where they are pulled into the bases by the same cone-point setscrew concept as the Conetrol.  The difference is the Conetrol ring posts have dimples to accept the points of the cone screws, whereas the S&K rings have v-shaped grooves around the entire circumference of the ring posts.  This design allows for greater rotational correction for misalignment than the Conetrol design, though the Conetrol ads would have you belive otherwise.  Even though the description of these rings and the fact you bend them around the scope tube may sound flimsy, I assure you they are exceptionally strong and rigid, because there are no screws or joints in the rings and the fact they squeeze together at the bottom means you have total ring contact with the scope tube.  Like the Conetrols, the S&K setup is very sleek and nice looking because there are no projections whatsoever.  In the matte finished versions, both are pretty much equal finish-wise, but in the polished blue versions, the S&Ks aren't as well-finished as the mirror-like finish of the Conetrols.

 

I agree, both companies don't do a very good job of advertising and both have exceptionally poor websites from the standpoint of explaining and picturing their excellent products.

 

Conetrol:  www.conetrol.com

S&K:  www.scopemounts.com

 

Though there is sparse info on their websites, both have an excellent selection of mount bases, offering mounts for pretty much any rifle available.

 

The top pic shows Conetrol "Custum" 2-piece rings/bases; S&K 2-piece matte rings/bases on the bottom pic...

 

 

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hi rifledude,

thank you for the extensive information about the S & K and Conetrol rings and bases. i believe i now have a complete understanding of how
both products work! :)

p.s. they look real nice on your guns
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