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Newb here,

How do you guys deal with this situation in terms of preventive maintenance and any other "do's and dont's"?

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Originally posted by milspecnsn milspecnsn wrote:

Newb here,

How do you guys deal with this situation in terms of preventive maintenance and any other "do's and dont's"?

Thanks

John

I have had steel rings and rails for quite some time and never really had any problems. I like Frog Lube for all my lubrication situations, (Smile) and this stuff works. 
Are you having problems with surface rust on your rings now? 
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Mark,

No, no problem with rust now. I ask in anticipation of getting my first set of steel base and rings(TPS TSR on Warne rail).

Pardon my "newb" questions. I assume that once the rail is mounted it pretty much stays on the receiver unless there is a need to take it off (e.g. have rifle Cerakoted)? How does one deal with moisture getting under the rail and potentially affecting the receiver or the rings on the scope/rail? 

I assume that over time moisture will defeat and penetrate the steel coating on the rail and rings?
Would one periodically dismantle everything and wipe it down and then re-zero it?

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I wouldn't take the rail off, ever. You can either epoxy bed the rail, or do as I did and apply a coat of blue Loc-Tite between the rail and the receiver to prevent moisture from wicking underneath it.  

I just pulled a Pic rail off my Rem after 8 plus years and noticed no rust what so ever under it. The former suggestion of epoxy bedding would probably be more beneficial.  

Be advised....You are ONLY epoxying the bottom of the rail to the contour of the rifle's receiver and NOT fixing the rail to the rifle's receiver permanently. 
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OK...gotcha on the rail bedding. What about maintenance for the rings? How's that handled?

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Eezox is the best rust preventive.
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Again, it's not a real big problem. Just lubricate when cleaning your rifle and your good to go. I live in a HIGH humidity AO and it's never been an issue. 

Heck, I've even submerged my entire rifle/scope/stock et al in a bathtub after coming back from a TX hog hunt once because it was so dusty. Bubble Bath  
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use a silicone cloth to wipe down your firearms and rings before you put them away.  As the cloth gets older you may spray Rem oil on it or use another quality lube. Most bolt guns will hunt a lifetime with even the most minimal of care but wipeing them down to get the perspiration and salts from your hands off and after being in the rain is a good idea. Care for rings and bases the same as the rest of the rifle.  Even the stainless guns need to be wiped down to prevent rust.
If that isnt adequate because of an extreme enviroment have Walter Birdsong apply Black T finish that is what the military uses comes green black tan brown matte type finish not particularly pretty but dam effective and about a 6 month wait, nice way to darken stainless guns.
 
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Wes and Mark,

Thanks much for your time and great advice. I have one last question and I'll be "good to go" with placing my order. 

What about dealing with moisture, or the potential for it to accumulate under the rings themselves where they contact the scope?

 manderson,

Yep, have been using Eezox for a while and have been happy with it.


Cheers!

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Originally posted by milspecnsn milspecnsn wrote:


What about dealing with moisture, or the potential for it to accumulate under the rings themselves where they contact the scope?
 

Nope. Never had that particular issue ever. 
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I had a set of badgers rings rust on me.  I have had several sets of steel leupolds rust on me as well, and I live in a pretty dry climate.  I pretty much stick with aluminum now, then I don't have to worry about it.  Properly designed aluminum rings will hold up just fine. 

Marks recommendation for Frog Lube is the best.  That stuff is awesome.  You properly apply that stuff to your entire rifle (steel and aluminum parts that is) and it will never rust. 
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By "properly" you mean using heat, I assume? 
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Yes and occasional reapplies. Just follow instructions is all
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I had a set of badgers rings rust on me.  I have had several sets of steel leupolds rust on me as well, and I live in a pretty dry climate.  I pretty much stick with aluminum now, then I don't have to worry about it.  Properly designed aluminum rings will hold up just fine. 

Marks recommendation for Frog Lube is the best.  That stuff is awesome.  You properly apply that stuff to your entire rifle (steel and aluminum parts that is) and it will never rust. 

Hmmm...maybe a set of quality aluminum rings (Seekins)on the steel base might be a "better" way to go? That's not an issue right? Aluminum rings on steel base, or am I opening up a new can of worms ?
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I run/ran Seekins aluminum on a steel Badger rail. Worked great. No worries.  
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

I run/ran Seekins aluminum on a steel Badger rail. Worked great. No worries.  

Mark,

Done! "thanks" to you and everyone else who chimed in on this topic. You helped "walk me" through the thought/decision process with your collective experiences. It's is exactly what I was hoping for.
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The aluminum rings are also noticeably lighter too. The Seekins rings are super nice.  
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