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Well, some how my (well oiled) stainless steel encore rusted.  But it's a wierd rust....it looks like little 'hairs' of rust.  It's hard to explain.  They are tiny and spread all over the trigger housing (the part with the trigger--I guess that's what you call it).  Anyways, how do I get it off?  Without messin' it up.
 
I've been told I need stainless steel wool.  Can somebody help me out....
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Steelwool rubbed lightly on it should take off the rust. Even stainless steel will rust  - some alloys more than others.  The part is the "trigger guard".  You should be OK just rub gently and look then more gradually, patience is the key.  Also good to take the forearm off and check the lower reciever under the forearm.  A small amount of gun grease will stay put better than a light coat of oil and if you can use a golden rod or dehumidifier in your gun closet or safe that also will help.
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I wasn't clear before.  It's the entire 'back-half' of the gun....not just the trigger guard.  Will any steel wool work, or do I need "stainless steel wool"?

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My suggestion is to spray it down with a good penetrating oil, let it sit for a few hours or even overnight, then rub lightly with 0000 steel wool. Use something like Break Free, Kroil, Rem Oil, EEzox etc
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this is some of the best anti rust spray on the planet we use it at work on everything
 
 
 
 
 

The Facts

The Proven Rust Buster

There are countless reasons to need a reliable "rust buster." Engine work, construction, maintenance, demolition, etc. Penetro 90® is a high performance penetrating oil that penetrates and lubricates all types of moving parts that have become difficult to operate due to increased friction from wear, corrosion or the buildup of sludge and grime. Penetro 90® is blended from a unique patented formula that provides the following benefits:

Superior rust busting characteristics.

  • Formation of a Triple Barrier Shield to protect against rust and other corrosive buildup.

  • Formation of a protective shield that rejects abrasive particles such as dirt, sand and salt, and protects against moisture.

  • Superior extreme pressure and anti-wear properties in order to increase equipment life and reduce downtime.

  • Will not affect any seal materials or coatings.

Prevents Thread Stripping

Have you ever stripped a thread breaking a bolt loose? With ordinary penetrating oil you spray the bolt, you get it half way off, and it jams. Rust is packed in the threads. You lean a little harder on the wrench and ZIP - there goes your threads.

Ordinary penetrating oils are solvent based. Feel them. They don't have any lubricating guts to lubricate the threads. Penetro 90® is oil based. Feel it. It coats the threads with an oil film that cuts friction.

Plus, it has two friction fighters - Penetro and PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) lubrication solids. They coat each rust particle and act like tiny ball bearings so the rust particles slide over each other easily without sticking to the threads. In fact, PTFE is the same non-stick surface used on non-stick frying pans. The result? Bolts release with fingertip ease.

Triple Barrier Shield Against Rust

Ordinary penetrating oils contain one rust and corrosion inhibitor. Penetro 90® contains three - Penetro, PTFE, and Rustop. They penetrate deep into the pores of metals and form a plating that provides a triple barrier shield against rust and corrosion.


Triples the life of Hoist Chains

Ordinary penetrating oils fail the Timken Film Strength Test at 1-2 lbs. Penetro and PTFE additives carry a 65 lb. Timken Load. This translates over 100,000 psi protection on hoist load chains and sprockets.

 

Triples the Time Between Applications

Ordinary penetrating oils are solvent-based, have little lubricating value, and evaporate quickly. Penetro 90 is oil based and coats surfaces with a light, clear lubricating film that stays on indefinitely.

 

Applications

Penetro 90's® unique formula allows it to penetrate and lubricate all types of moving parts. It increases equipment life and reduces costly downtime caused by worn or dirty parts.

Uses:

Valves • Gears • Linkage • Conveyors • Rollers • Taps & Dies • Hoist Chains • Hinges • Control Cables • Locks • Electric Power Tools • Air Power Tools • Cutting Tools

Chosen for the Aloha Stadium

Constructed in 1975 of Cor-ten steel, the Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was intended to oxidze (rust) gradually for a maintenance free exterior that would not require painting.

Unfortunately the salt air caused the material to rust deeper, which heightened concern about the safety of the structure in severe weather. Abhe & Svoboa Painting Company was hired to sandblast off the rust and apply a paint coating to protect it from re-oxidizing. After 18 years, the oxidation had caused the bolts to fuse together with the seat plates. Penetro 90® was used to help remove the rusted bolts so that the stadium chairs could be removed. According to Abhe & Svoboda, the use of Penetro 90® resulted in labor savings of over 50%

 
 
Penetro® 90 is a high performance penetrating oil that penetrates and lubricates all types of moving parts
 

Rapid deposition of a long lasting solid lubricant film that greatly reduces friction and wear. Rapid penetration into the pores of the metal in order to free frozen bolts, sticking linkages and control cable arms.

 
Threads pack with rust.
 
Penetro 90, with it's exclusive chemical friction modifier, penetrates into threads and rust and acts like tiny ball bearings. Within seconds, the bolt releases.
 


 
   
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WOW pyro, impressive !
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Steel wool NO! Flitz yes! IF it  is really stainless then the steel wool is ok.  The stainless steel wool is so that you do not add stuff that will rust.  Now if it is bead blasted nickel or hard chrome, Fitz will not cut through the plating unless you are using a buffer.
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Originally posted by bricat bricat wrote:

WOW pyro, impressive !
they make some of the best products ive ever used, we run there engine oil in all of our dozers loaders skid steers scrapers dump trucks etc. and i run it in my personal vehicles also, its spendy but worth it, we can stretch our oil changes out to 10000 miles on our trucks.
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Try to remember to always put a few drops of oil on your steelwool as this will work oil into the new surface or metal your are exposing. After you have removed the rust or other problems wipe it clean with a solvent or cleaner and then apply a light coat of oil or *grease* to protect the new finish. 000 or 0000 steelwool is the ideal texture for this application. No real need for any special wool on this type of clean up. Oh! we typically refer to this as white rust, it happens to stainless, aluminum, galvinize and other non-moly metals. Good luck on the clean up!
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Pyro, is this oil available at local retailers or is it a mail order only product?
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I've never used the Penetro 90 but I thought I might add this.  I've run my own corrosion tests for about 5 years now and I've tested dozens of oils, waxes, greases, solvents with various tests.  I can tell you that thin penetrating oils usually fair poorly compared to conventional oils.  Even amongst gun oils the thinner oils do poorly in the tests.  BF-CLP, Eezox, Outers Gun oil, and Gunslick Gun Seal are all excellent products that can withstand several days of saltwater spray without showing any corrosion.  Long term, products that dry last longer IME.  By that I mean; oils will evaporate after several weeks and lose protection.  By comparison the wax bases sprays that dry in a few minutes will last for up to 2 years before they need to be reapplied.  Don't forget to throw in some VCI rust inhibitor chips and keep the dust off the gun too.  THe dust holds moisture from the air against the gun causing rust.  A dust free gun requires almost no rust preservative to stave off rust.
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