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So, I've been working on this tactical rifle project for a while.  I finally bit the bullet today and ordered the rifle.  As luck would have it I got turned on by a rifle that the mfg. actually had in stock (GAP Crusader).  So it looks like I'll have it in a few weeks.

 

So I gotta hurry and figure out what glass to put on it!

 

I've been going back and forth about what to get.  I like the US Optics, but the cost for what I want is pushing my budget too far (which is right in the $1300 range).  I've heard good things about Nightforce, and the NXS 3.5x15x50 is definitely in the final four.  I've always liked my Leupolds, and the Mk 4 4.5x14x50 LR/T with the MK1 knobs is also in the final four.  (US Optics St10 is also in the final four, if I decide I can live with a fixed 10x.  Hint, I probably can't.)

 

And then there's the IOR.  Everyone wants me to look at the IOR.  I resisted it at first, mostly because I'm the guy who instinctively goes in the opposite direction of the crowd.  But I'm getting older and wiser and have learned that sometimes the crowd isn't necessarily going the wrong way.

 

Add to that the fact that I really like that MP-8 reticle.  Something about that little dot in the center really appeals to me.  And the price doesn't suck either.

 

But here's the thing.  One of the things that really draws me to Leupold and US Optics is their respective reputations for building rock solid equipment and/or having worry-free attitudes toward their warrantees.  I'm curious if the same can be said for the IORs?

 

This really boils down to two questions:

 

-Are the IORs reasonably rugged?  I don't need them to be quite as rugged as the US Optics -I already own a hammer.  But can they take at least as much punishment as other scopes in their class?

-What's the company like to deal with around warrantee issues?  I see that they have a "limited lifetime" warrantee.  But I don't speak Romanian.  Is there some office, department here stateside where one goes with such issues?

 

Thanks,

 

Ben

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I can't tell you for sure about the comp btween IOR, and USO. but as far as the language thing you'd be surprised how many people % wise speak english.I doubt that would be a problem, Oh mine is doing quite well, so the IOR should work for you, as well.
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Call George back and tell him to mount one of the U.S.Optic SN3  1.8-10x44 scopes on it with Badger rings before he ships it.

He has a couple of them on hand in his cabinet.  Just spend a couple of hundred more and dont give it a second thought - you will never regret having done so.  You might have him put a Vortex flash suppressor on it but thats up to you.

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Hmmmmm . . . So he has the 1.8-10x USO?  Now you would have to go tell me that!!!

 

Any idea what the price is on those?

 

Ben

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IOR has a distributor here in the states (in Colorado), so unless you buy a grey market product, there should be non need to ever deal with the factory in Romania.  As for ruffedness, I've never had any problems with my IORs and they are very well built.  Customer service has had its rough patches in the past, but it has improved tremendously in the last several years.  I just bought a 3-18x42 IOR and have had quite a few more over the years.  I would not expect any problems.

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Though I mostly agree with koshkin, I completely agree with ufriend: get the USO.  If you are spending that kinda $$ on the best rifle one can buy, get the best scope too.

 

I can't say too much regarding IOR customer or tech support since I owned my IOR for about a month; however, half the time when I called (about something ancillary but important), I got a busy signal.  I think they turn products around quickly, but they can be tough to reach.

 

The scopes are good, the glass is good, the reticule is nice, the features are nice, and they are less expensive than USO; however, it ain't a USO.  Having said all that, if your max budget is $1300 firm, buy an IOR from SWFA, they will treat you right.

 

If you want the very bet, buy USO and be happy forever.  If you cannot buy the very bet right now, buy the IOR till you have the money to buy the USO and shoot lots till then.

 

And, not to forget entirely your first post, NXS is a great scope too.  Many here don't care for Nightforce, I don't like Leupold, to each his own.  IOR or Nightforce will serve you well, USO you will buy and never regret.

 

Does that complicate things more for you?

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If you have unlimited resources, buy the USO.

If you have $1300 to spend, but not much more than that, IOR is probably a top choice.

As is often the case, it really boils down to how much you are willing to spend.

As for Nightforce, Nightforce makes nice scopes with very good mechanics.  Personally, I lean toward FFP scopes which Nightforce does not make.  That having been said, Nightforce makes very robust and reliable scopes.  I do not care much for their illumination system though and with pretty thin reticles NIghtforce uses illumination is important.

Leupold, I do not care for personally.  I do not think their tactical scopes are in the same league with other brands mentioned in this thread: USO, IOR and Nightforce.  Leupold customer service is beyond reproach, but optically and mechanically they are not comparable.  I am, perhaps, not the best person to judge this, so I asked quite a few others.  It looks like current Mark 4 design is essentially their hunting scopes with bigger turrets and different labels.  I hope they plan to get back to making a real competitive design soon, bu I will not hold my breath.

ILya
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