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As I have mentioned before I am very interested in buying a new rifle in 338 Win Mag to use for an all around big game rifle including that dream hunt to Alaska someday. I have narrowed it down to two rifles, this http://remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-xcr-ii.aspx and this http://ruger.com/products/m77HawkeyeSporter/models.html 
Which do you think I should go for and why?
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I'll take the Ruger any day! As a matter of fact I have been looking at that very rifle. Don't need it...kinda want it. I'm not a Remmy guy, but did have a few. The last two had issues so they went down the road. Rugers are tough, dependable and shoot fine (at least the ones I have had did). The CRF is nice and I do like 3-position safeties (but I do wish they would slim it up more like the Kimber ones). The new triggers are decent enough (although not a Timney...LOL) and I do like the Laminated stock. Ruger's CS has been good to me so no concerns there. Ruger's tend to be tight and "rough" at first. Just keep cycling the bolt / safety and dry firing and they loosen up nicely. Let us know which one you go with and how you like it! Good luck Sam.

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I have a very old Ruger 30-06 which is to say the least a fine shooter. But if I were to buy a new factory gun it would be a savage.
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There is almost a pound of difference. My only M77 is also a laminated stock. It is very nice and heavy. I also have several M700's, mostly synthetic stocks. I would get the Remington.

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Agree with Ric.  Fan of the Rugers.  The are not the flashiest but it works well.  I'm not anti Remington, just prefer the Ruger.  Like the CRF as I can control the brass extraction (slow they stand in the chamber opening at the range or normal speed to clear the chamber when hunting).  Simply the gun has never failed me.  Sure there are many Remington owner that have been well served by their guns too.  My opinion and I am a sucker for the laminated stock. 













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 I've had both brands and they're both good rifles.
 
 I wonder what the real world price is on that Remington.  Seems high for having a Hogue stock.  Plus I've read more posts from those who didn't like the Hogue than did. 
 
 But that weight diff just may be a deciding factor for me. A scope,rings,sling,and three rounds could push that Ruger to at least 9 1/2lbs and maybe more.
 
 Guess if I had to make out the check right now I'd go with the Remington. But then there's this. Whacko
  
 
 
 
 
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I love my Ruger M77 300 WM.  Really like my Rem 700 22-250 as well.  I tend to lean towards Ruger myself, maybe because the action is more like a Mauser,  but they are both nice.  THe downside to the Ruger is that ring mounts. 
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I have (had) both. For a hunting rifle I like Rugers - 3 position safety, controlled feed, long Mauser type extractor, except for magazine box all parts are relatively durable investment castings. I like the Ruger scope rings because ring/mount tightness can be checked out without removing the scope from the receiver and scopes can be removed and then mounted again with no or almost no readjusting. 
 
My Ruger complaints are the triggers are heavy and creepy but that can be changed with a trigger job by a checked out gunsmith or knowledgable other. I don't like the diagonal bedding screw arrangement because when epoxy bedding the rifle action much time and effort has to be spent in refitting the trigger guard and floor plate.
 
As for the Remington - there are many stocks available, mounting systems, and should you decide to restock the rifle they are easily bedded because of the round receiver. Some of my very most accurate rifles are Rem 700 SA's.
 
I have had problems with Rem 700 extractors (finger nail type). The Rem 700 bolt is not as easy to field strip as the Ruger. Rem 700 use a dime in a slot to hold the cocking piece back. Ruger M77 use a small allen wrench through a hole in the bottom of the cocking piece to hold the cocking piece back.
 
As much as I like the Ruger for a hunting rifle I think my FN Mausers are tougher and more reliable. Specifically the ejector arragement - I have had R M77 MKII's crudded up with a combination of dirt, rust, and gummed up oil to the point where the ejector would not snap out of its slot. Try cold temps, salt water, mud (Alaska) and this can happen faster than you would believe. The Mauser is easier to clean up without taking the rifle out of the stock. No, my Mausers don't have a big washer inletted into the side of the stock to help me strip the bolt down completely.
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