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As a hunting forum, and with all the experience here, perhaps someone could make a suggestion.  I have a Ruger #1 Tropical .458 Lott.  (I just love it, by the way).  I currently have S&B 4x36-9 on it, because the Ruger "stock" iron sight is so atrocious.  Can anyone recommend a good iron sight for the Ruger that can be seen at low light?  Good eyes, but I could not take a shot at a BIG buck early in the season last year because I could not find the front sight in low light.  I was holding 3/4in at 100yd in good light and less than 2in at 200.  One 3round group at 300yd was slightly under 4in.  It is better at the longer ranges with the scope, but since it IS a Lott, I am partial to the iron.  Most of my shots are taken very near dark.  Certainly nothing wrong with the scope...
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Hobby Lobby has glow in the dark paint... Is it the front or rear sight that you want to improve?



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There is not a whole lot out there but http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/index.html?Peep%20sight.htm~maindeal can help you, including your front bead.

If this violates a rule please delete. I saw no matching products at  http://www.swfa.com/default.aspx
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

There is not a whole lot out there but http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/index.html?Peep%20sight.htm~maindeal can help you, including your front bead.

 
+1.  NECG has some high quality stuff!
 
Like SWFA, they sell S&B scopes, but I don't think overall they are a big competitor to SWFA.
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Thank you, all. BIG help. I searched for a while and really couldn't find anything.
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 Anybody who can shoot a .458 Lott that well deserves any help we can offer!
 What sort of bullets you running through that beast?
 
 
 
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Originally, I was shooting Winchester .458WinMag510gr, which was great, but several experienced users said that after a few hundred rounds (continuous) the WinMag would begin to wear the throat and cause extraction problems. I got some Hornady 500gr Lott(6040ftlb at the muzzle in a 22in barrel), but that is just way overpowered for North American hunting. Plus, it does not allow the shooter any slack. I did not hold tight against my shoulder one day (got cocky) and the Lott gave me a whole new understanding of all the lessons I had previously taken for granted on good "weld". BIG bear or Aftican dangerous game ammo, not what I get around here (Alabama) and Texas.
Grizzly Ammo loaded me some 350gr Hornady jacketed soft point Lott at about 2000fps (1950 in a 22in barrel, the Tropical is 24in). They do great work, but Grizzly won't custom load the Lott anymore. Not cost effective. They also load some 458WinMag stuff that is as accurate as anything I have ever used. Words of praise for Mike Rintoul do not do his ammo justice. If I can dig it up, I'll try to post my last 200yd target...
Great story...a work acquaintance had some duty in Alaska (we work for MDA) and won the Lott in a raffle for $25.00. He was afraid to shoot it, so I bought it. Got a GREAT deal.
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Tahqua, much obliged. That is EXACTLY what I was looking for front fiber optic and a peep. OUTSTANDING.
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I'm glad it helped. I have a #1 in 45-70 and with heavy hand loads kicks hard. Your .458 has to be obnoxious. You squeeze the trigger.........boom, pain, smile!
 
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Truthfully, the reason I bought is because after the guy who won it told me about it and that he was going to sell, I saw an advertisement for .458 Lott that said "guaranteed to knock down anything that walks on the planet."  I HAD to have it.  Recoil is OK, as long as you are aware of what it CAN do to you.  I will never forget again.  The 350gr Grizzly ammo is fantastic and I may someday have a reason, Africa hunt, to use the Hornady Cape Buffalo ammo.  A friend calls it my shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon. 
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I've been trying to post my first target using the .458WinMag ammo (2300fps/4070ftlbME) with open sights. However, it appears I have a few more posts to go before I will be able to insert a picture.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i'll allow it
 
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I've been trying to post my first target using the .458WinMag ammo (2300fps/4070ftlbME) with open sights. However, it appears I have a few more posts to go before I will be able to insert a picture.
 
umm....maybe Pyro will allow it................!
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email it to somebody who can is all i can offer you there
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 
 Anybody who can shoot a .458 Lott that well deserves any help we can offer!
 What sort of bullets you running through that beast?
 
 
 
I just read, today, an article in Shooting Times on rifle accuracy, specifically "big bores".  Appears .1in 3rnd groups at 100yds is not uncommon and is, in fact, expected.  According to ST, sub-MOA is pretty normal for the big guns.  I thought I was doing pretty well, now not as happy with myself.  Always more to learn. 
 
 
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I've got the pics and as soon as I can get on a decent machine around here I'll take care of it...... teenagers!. If not I'll do it at lunch from work tomorrow.

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Here you go, I'll let Dan give the explanation.
That is some mighty fine shooting with a heavy kicker, BTW
 



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Hmmm. came to explain and photo is gone...
I am on travel and have not had much online time.  Don't get home until late tonight.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:




Shots taken at ~1253ft MSL, 61degF, 58%humidity, winds variable 20-25mph moving left to right. After mounting S&B 4X36 9 reticle scope. The far right of target (blue tape) is first 5 shots. There are 5 shots in the 100yd group. The 200yd group, I was using the 100yd group as my aim point. However, I don't get to shoot as much lately (travel a lot) as I would like, and over corrected for wind. I believe the "flyer" was simply due to wind dying down the two touching were at a wind gust, but I was over adjusting.
This doesn't come close to the groups reported in Shooting Times lastest Accuracy Secrets edition
Tahqua, thank you for posting for me.

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Should have updated: I ordered the fiber optic front sight, should be here day after Memorial Day. Still not sure if I need the peep. I like them, just not convinced I need one. One reason I want to go back to the open sights is the raw speed of acquisition. The front FO may do all I need. I fully mounted the Pentax 4x tonight, expect to shoot it in tomorrow. It was mounted, just do not do all the little "extras" until today, Level/Level/Level, full ring alignment, torqued the screws, re-boresight. It is ready to bang, now.
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Just swapped scopes on two rifles...put the NIKON Laser on the .220Swift (permanent mount this time) and the dreaded NcStar on the 30-06 (and by the way, while boresighting, noticed a couple of odd movements of the reticle while focusing...maybe just me, but it gave me pause. This thing may be showing signs of its cheapness.)   That is certainly NOT a permanent mount. They both look better the other way.   The NIKON looks a little odd no matter what I put it on, but it looked pretty good sitting on the -06. Only mediocre on the Remington. Have to sight in this weekend for upcoming hog hunt...3 rifles to shoot in this weekend.   
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Just swapped scopes on two rifles...put the NIKON Laser on the .220Swift (permanent mount this time) and the dreaded NcStar on the 30-06 (and by the way, while boresighting, noticed a couple of odd movements of the reticle while focusing...maybe just me, but it gave me pause. This thing may be showing signs of its cheapness.)   That is certainly NOT a permanent mount. They both look better the other way.   The NIKON looks a little odd no matter what I put it on, but it looked pretty good sitting on the -06. Only mediocre on the Remington. Have to sight in this weekend for upcoming hog hunt...3 rifles to shoot in this weekend.   

This was the 3006 before the scope changeover. My daughter keeps the digital camera hidden from me, but someday when I find it again, I will post the Etronx with this scope on it.
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Well, the hog hunt did not go exactly as my fantasy envisioned.  FIrst,, I did not take the 30-06, decided 2.5 days was a little short for hunting 3 rifles.  I stalked MILES and MILES  through snake country without ever seeing, hearing, smelling, fantasizing a hog.  I switched from the Lott to the 220 Swift and finally got a shot at the only hog I saw.  Processed him last night.  He was a small boar, about 110lbs before he was dressed.  Any larger than about 130 and I am not going to eat it. 
As for pictures... there were a few guys having a beer or two and I let one of them look at the pictures on my camera.  After I got about halfway back home, found that he had managed to delete all of them,  somehow.  Beer and cameras are a dangerous combination.  I know, this post is useless without pictures, but did not think anyone wanted to look at trees and the river... the only pictures I have left from this trip. 
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