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 i love to shoot i'v been doin it since i was a little kid, but i'm new to long range shooting. i was given a remington model 700 PSS in .308 and i wanted to know how i should set it up for long range shooting?  

 

my rifle is an older model 700 PSS built in remingtons custom shop before it became a production rifle, and i have a Super Sniper 10X42 with leopold bases and rings.

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How about a Harris Ultra Lite bipod for tactical/bench style shooting??

 

Sounds like your already setup, friend.

 

You may want to "upgrade" to a better set of base/rings sometime though. Other than that, your well on your way!!

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thanks for the info. what rings/bases would you recomend
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Originally posted by huntindawg huntindawg wrote:

thanks for the info. what rings/bases would you recomend

 

Badger are the best, flat out.

Warne makes a good set as well.  

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More expensive rings and bases will do nothing for a scope that will not bring out the true accuracy potential of this rifle especially with handloads. This gun is capable of 3 moa at 600 yds. and screwing the scope on tighter helps zelch. Spend the money on a better scope. Even good match factory loads will out shoot this scope.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

More expensive rings and bases will do nothing for a scope that will not bring out the true accuracy potential of this rifle especially with handloads.

 

Dale:

Not exactly accurate...

 

While I had OK luck with Leupold rings, (his rings), several people have complained quite a bit about movement, slippage.

 

Good rings and bases are IMO, an excellent investment.

 

 

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All rings and bases have slippage, almost all rings and bases are good. What makes a set of bad rings and bases? Lack of quality control in the product or usually the gun receiver which is the biggest variable (especially ruger). The best set of rings are milled along with and are part of the receiver, Neiska bay bench action. Even Badgers will vary,  what you are supposedly paying for is less tolerance stack up. This doesn't even address the problem of "slop" in most Picatinny rail set ups. Will a gun that shoots 1/4 min. angle groups shoot 1/8" groups by simply putting on Badgers?  I don't think so. Base set done properly, even with a marginal set of bases, and rings which may include milling will always be the best route (by this time the gunsmith cost will have put it in the Badger class). It would be a convient world to assume that "statistically" one could save this step by buying the best.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

All rings and bases have slippage, almost all rings and bases are good. What makes a set of bad rings and bases? 

 

That's hog wash.

All rings are NOT made the same, Dale.

And good rings and bases do matter, at least to me.

 

Point duly noted about receivers though. Very true.......

 

A good set of Badger rings/rail will last a guy a life time of shooting on differant rifles and scopes.

 

 

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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Will a gun that shoots 1/4 min. angle groups shoot 1/8" groups by simply putting on Badgers?  I don't think so. 

 

I never even remotely suggested that Dale......

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 everybody seems to like badger but their just a little bit exspensive. I'm only 16 so i dont have a great deal of money.

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Go with what you have, Bro!!

 

You got a sweet setup!!

 

Sorry for all the hoop la .......cheaptrick....out! 

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Huntin you have a PM.
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 thanks for all the great info it'll help a lot
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If you're worred about spending 375 on arguably the best set of rings and bases how did you get a remington custom witha 300-400 dollar scope in the first place? Your best bet would be to hit up pops for some machine work, true up the action etc etc, then ask gram and gramps for a set of rings and bases for your birthday. Better yet, get a job and burn all your money on a nice mill and lathe like me!
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I would love to add a mill and lathe to by metal working/blacksmiths shop but i dont have that kind of money with my truck payment and other projects

 

my dad bought the rifle but i have to come up with the money for the scope, rings, bases, and any work that gets done.

 

i dont mind having to pay for my stuff because when its done i can look at it and know that i did that i worked hard to get that and now i can go have fun with it. and i dont think my parents should give me everything. i have to work for my stuff but in the end it makes me appreciate it that much more.

 

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Badgers are good, but expensive.  I've had very good luck with Warne rings and Ken Farrell bases.

I am not a big fan of Leupold rings, but have you tried your current setup?  Is there a particular problem with it that you are trying to fix?  First and foremost, with good ammo, what kind of groups are you getting at 100 or 200 yards?

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 the rifle i'm trying to get set up has never been fired i'm still waiting for my rings and bases to get here. a train derailed and screwed things up.

 

i just wanted to know if there was anything i needed to do to the barrel, action, or trigger and if i had quality equipment.

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I think that before all else you should mount the scope, get some quality ammo (I've had good luck with Black Hills, but it is a good idea to get a few different brands and try them out) and go shoot it.

Based on your results you'll know what to do next.  Make sure that you have a solid rest to shoot from.  Keep in mind that you are trying to evaluate the rifle, not your trigger control.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I think that before all else you should mount the scope, get some quality ammo (I've had good luck with Black Hills, but it is a good idea to get a few different brands and try them out) and go shoot it.

Based on your results you'll know what to do next.  Make sure that you have a solid rest to shoot from.  Keep in mind that you are trying to evaluate the rifle, not your trigger control.

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Good advise here.
 
I reload for my .308, but rumor has it that Federal Gold Match is great ammo too.
 
Best of luck. 
 
 
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Federal Gold Match is indeed very good.  I do not currently have a 308, although I am building one, but there are so many good 308 loads that it is hard to do better with handloads: there is bound to be a load somewhere there that fits your rifle.

It is often cheaper to handload though.

For myself, if I can find a good factory load, I go with that.  I've got enough projects as is.

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For reloading a .308 using 168gr pills, I've had great results using Varget and Fed 210 Match primers. 
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hey everybody heres a picture of my rig. I used it this afternoon to put a five shot group in a hole the size of a quarter

at 150yards.

 

 

 

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Originally posted by huntindawg huntindawg wrote:

hey everybody heres a picture of my rig. I used it this afternoon to put a five shot group in a hole the size of a quarter

at 150yards.

 

 

 

 
Good deal. That PSS is a great rifle.
 
I have a VSLH, which is slightly differant from yours, but has the bolt on the "right" left side...
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Consider getting a one piece base, those appear to be rifleman rings and bases, which are the bottom of the barrel for the leupold line. You dont have to be a millionaire to have a nice setup, 200 bucks will go along way for you. Go for warne if you're tight on cash.
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i think i'll use what i have for now i was hitting targets at five hundred yards today.   

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