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I recently purchased a Browning X-bolt 300WM.  I have Burris Fullfied II scopes on my other rifles, any thoughts of doing the same with this one or should I possible consider others.  Budget is around $500 range for discussion purposes and plans for use are elk hunting.  Thanks
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I'd get a Zeiss Conguest in 3x9-40....they're really good scopes for the money.
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Originally posted by swtucker swtucker wrote:

I'd get a Zeiss Conguest in 3x9-40....they're really good scopes for the money.


+1 the conquest gets a lot of votes for that price point
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In your price range I would also consider the Bushnell Elite 4200. These scopes have rainguard and though I don't personally have one (I have 2  Burris Six X with Storm Coat, same type of deal) I want a scope with a water repellant coating since it inevitably snows/rains whenever I go Elk hunting. I wish Zeiss would put the LotuTec coating on the Conquest Models. It would make them unbeatable in that price category.

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   Here's another I've caught some positive bits and pieces on including the OL Mag Optics Review article:
 
  
Meopta 3-9x42 Meopro Rifle Scope
Stock # - MEO524370
  • Matte
  • #4
  • 1"
Specifications
Weight (oz): 16


#4

Length (in): 16
Eye Relief (in): 3.75
Field of View @ 100 yards (ft): 36.3
Exit Pupil (in): --
Focal Plane: 2nd
 

Meopta 3-9x42 Meopro Rifle Scope

$399.95
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Originally posted by Monster Monster wrote:

Originally posted by swtucker swtucker wrote:

I'd get a Zeiss Conguest in 3x9-40....they're really good scopes for the money.


+1 the conquest gets a lot of votes for that price point

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All the above are great options, if your happy with the FFII I don't see a reason why you couldn't mount that also.  While the FFII isn't optically as nice as the scopes listed above, its just as durable.
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For the same amount of money as the Ziess, I really doubt you can find better glass than that.
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

All the above are great options, if your happy with the FFII I don't see a reason why you couldn't mount that also.  While the FFII isn't optically as nice as the scopes listed above, its just as durable.
 
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Thanks to all who have replied.  I have never considered a Zeiss, always thought the cost to be beyond what I would want to pay.  However, the Conquest clearly is within my price range.  I have liked my Burris FFII, yet have found them to have condensation build up on the outside of the lens in certain light rainy situations, even when not exposed directly to the rain. .  Not sure if that applies to all scopes.

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 If you have the condensation problem alot you may want to go with the Elite 4200. You'd be giving up VERY LITTLE to a Conquest plus you'd have the Rainguard feature,

 
Bushnell 3-9x40 Elite 4200 Rifle Scope
Stock # - 423944M
  • Matte
  • Multi-X
  • 1"
  • Rainguard
  • Free Fleece Pullover (Mail-In Coupon)
Specifications
Weight (oz): 13


Multi-X

Length (in): 12.6
Eye Relief (in): 3.3
Field of View @ 100yds (ft): 33.8 - 11.5
Exit Pupil (mm): 13.3 - 4.4
MOA: 1/4
Lens Coating: Fully Multi-Coated
Warranty: Limited Lifetime
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by Derek
on 4/3/2010
Great scope for the money! If this scope weren't such a great value ($216 after price match shipped to my door) I would have given it a 4 rather than a 5. The optics are very clear, there is no doubt about that. The field of view is decent. They have been bench tested with 375H&H Mags and this one is on my .270, so I'm sure I'll never have recoil issues and that is a big plus to me. The scope looks pretty good (I would rate that about a 3 maybe 4, but looks don't matter to me so much as performance). My main issue was the length of the tube. It BARELY cleared mounting on my Stevens 200 .270 with my Talley rings. I just would have liked the option to move it backwards some to keep me from having to crane my neck so much to get the full view of the scope and the eye relief could be more to maybe accommodate this issue. Other than that, nothing wrong with it at all! Great scope!
by Martin3175
on 12/12/2009
Today's best value in a rifle scope ! I am a big fan of the 4200 series of rifle scopes. They have it all- excellent optics, good looks, durable, great tracking ,fantastic customer service and warranty, and the big plus-Rainguard. I own half a dozen 4200's, and all have proven to be trouble free, and some of the firearms they are on are relatively hard kickers ( 300 Weatherby , 300 Rem ultramag, and a 338 mag ) . On more than one occasion, the rainguard allowed a shot to be taken when fellow hunters were pulling out shirt tales to clear their fogged lenses. If you are on a sub $300 budget and looking for a $600 product - this is it .. Higly recommended and a bargain !
by pyro6999
on 12/8/2009
Best bang for your buck!! The 4200 Elite has to be the best scope value in the sub $300 class. The Rainguard feature is great!! This scope has been on top of my .375H&H for a year now and is as tough as Bushnell says. Great scope for the money no doubt.
by supertool73
on 12/8/2009
One of the best buys in optics I have two of these. One has lived on an AR-15 its whole life and has performed very well. The other gets moved around a lot. It has been on a 7mm, a 45-70, a .357 mag lever rifle, a .22 and currently on an AR in 6.8 Rem. SPC. They have held up very well and have great optics for any legal shooting time in Utah. The Rainguard is a great feature and adds a ton of value to these scopes. No matter what weather I am hunting in I can always count on these scopes.
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Thanks. elk hunting in CO one nevers knows what type of weather to expect.  Is there a product one can put on the outisde of the lens to prevent this on my other scopes. 
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Only downside to the 4200 is the eye relief is not as good as some, but I never had a problem with mine.  Good optics, and I love the rainguard.

Is there any mag range you were looking at?  
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The other scope recommended is the Zeiss Conquest which has an eye relief of 4". The 4200 has 3.3".  Not sure that is a big difference.  Anyway, max range for me is 400-500 yards.  Beyond that range I personally don't feel comfortable taking the shot. 
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Conquest,
Elite 4200,
Leupy VX-3,
Vortex Viper
 
These are all great scopes in your price range.
Burris FF2s are good scopes, but the ones above are ... above it.
 
Sounds like a good elk setup anyway.
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If you go for the FFII go to the 4.5-14. The glass is way better than what is in the 3-9 versions of the FFII. I have the 4.5-14 and it will resolve almost as good as the Zeiss at long distance. The Zeiss has better contrast and color that makes it a lot easier to look through.
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There is a spray on product called Parker's Perfect that aids in defogging scopes, glasses, binos, etc.
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

There is a spray on product called Parker's Perfect that aids in defogging scopes, glasses, binos, etc.
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+8 for Conquest.Another you might look at is the Minox ZA5 3-15x42.
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Zeiss Conquest Rifle Scopes

Zeiss 3-9x40 Conquest Rifle Scope
Stock # - 5214609904
  • Matte
  • #4
  • 1"
  • Etched Glass
  • 2nd Plane
Specifications
Weight (oz):15


#4

Length (in):13.15
Eye Relief (in):4
Field of View @ 100yds (ft):34 - 11
Exit Pupil (mm):13.3 - 4.4

If you elect to go with the Conquest I would go with this one with the #4 reticle for Elk Hunting. I know it's $100.00 more but I think you will find it worth the extra money in the long run. Once you use this reticle it's hard to go back to a plex type reticle.
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Originally posted by CDLEE CDLEE wrote:

I have liked my Burris FFII, yet have found them to have condensation build up on the outside of the lens in certain light rainy situations, even when not exposed directly to the rain. .  Not sure if that applies to all scopes.



Yes, it applies to all scopes, except those that have some sort of water-repelling outer coating like Bushnell's "Rainguard."  Even then, they will still get condensation, but the coating helps to cause the water to "bead up" and clear better.  It's a humidity and variable temperature thing, and has nothing to do with the quality of the scope -- as long as we're talking about the OUTSIDE of the lenses.
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Man.... I hope I'm not exceeding a noob's post count for the day with this one!  Smile
 
I have run a Burris FFII; in fact I killed my first deer looking through one ten years or so ago.  It was a decent scope, and it and the other Burris'  (Burri?) I have owned appeared to be built like tanks.
 
When I owned that scope I was a complete opics noob and I don't think any impressions I had of it, optically, have much value now... lots of water under the bridge, and I don't still have it to compare to other scopes, so I'll refrain from offering an optical opinion.  I do remember that it didn't have good flatness of field though; lots of that rolling donut effect.
 
My beef with the FFII 3-9 is that you turn the entire ocular when adjusting power, which means you can't really use flip-up covers, which are important to me because I hunt in the rain a lot.
 
In the under $500 range I've used the above Burris, 2-7 Leupold, 2.5-8 Leupold, and several models of Conquest.   The Leupold 2.5-8 is an excellent scope and a guy could go to his grave using just that and not miss much... however, with that said,  my hands-down favorite is the Conquest 3-9x40mm.  That, right there, is one heck of a $400 riflescope!   Very friendly to the eye, great in low light, excellent tracking if you go the turrets route, and all in all a fantastic value.
 
 
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+1, well said Jeff.
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