Cartridge (Wb@MV) |
Rifle Weight |
Recoil energy |
Recoil velocity |
.17 HMR (17 at 2550) |
7.5 |
0.2 |
n/a |
.204 Ruger (33 at 4225) |
8.5 |
2.6 |
4.4 |
.22 LR (40 at 1165) |
4.0 |
0.2 |
n/a |
.22 WMR (40 at 1910) |
6.75 |
0.4 |
n/a |
.22 Hornet (45 at 2800) |
7.5 |
1.3 |
3.3 |
.222 Rem. (50 at 3200) |
7.5 |
3.0 |
5.1 |
.223 Rem. (55 at 3200) |
8.0 |
3.2 |
5.1 |
.223 Rem. (62 at 3025) |
7.0 |
3.9 |
6.0 |
.22-250 Rem. (55 at 3600) |
8.5 |
4.7 |
6.0 |
.220 Swift (55 at 3800) |
8.5 |
5.3 |
6.4 |
.223 WSSM (55 at 3850) |
7.5 |
6.4 |
7.4 |
.243 Win. (75 at 3400) |
8.5 |
7.2 |
7.4 |
.243 Win. (100 at 2960) |
7.5 |
8.8 |
8.7 |
6mm Rem. (100 at 3100) |
8.0 |
10.0 |
9.0 |
.243 WSSM (100 at 3100) |
7.5 |
10.1 |
9.3 |
.240 Wby. Mag. (100 at 3406) |
8.0 |
17.9 |
n/a |
.25-35 Win. (117 at 2230) |
6.5 |
7.0 |
8.3 |
.250 Savage (100 at 2900) |
7.5 |
7.8 |
8.2 |
.257 Roberts (120 at 2800) |
8.0 |
10.7 |
9.3 |
.25 WSSM (120 at 2990) |
7.25 |
13.8 |
11.1 |
.25-06 Rem. (120 at 3000) |
8.0 |
12.5 |
10.0 |
.257 Wby. Mag. (120 at 3300) |
9.25 |
15.1 |
10.3 |
6.5x55 Swede (140 at 2650) |
9.0 |
10.6 |
8.7 |
.260 Rem. (120 at 2860) |
7.5 |
13.0 |
10.6 |
6.5mm-284 Norma (140 at 2920) |
8.0 |
14.7 |
10.9 |
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (120 at 3100) |
8.0 |
13.1 |
10.3 |
6.5x68 S (140 at 2990) |
8.5 |
16.8 |
11.3 |
.264 Win. Mag. (140 at 3200) |
8.5 |
19.2 |
12.1 |
6.8mm Rem. SPC (115 at 2625) |
7.5 |
8.0 |
8.3 |
.270 Win. (130 at 3140) |
8.0 |
16.5 |
n/a |
.270 Win. (150 at 2900) |
8.0 |
17.0 |
11.7 |
.270 WSM (150 at 3000) |
8.0 |
18.9 |
12.3 |
.270 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3000) |
9.25 |
17.8 |
11.1 |
7x57 Mauser (139 at 2800) |
8.0 |
14.0 |
10.6 |
7mm-08 Rem. (140 at 2860) |
8.0 |
12.6 |
10.1 |
7x64 (154 at 2850) |
8.0 |
17.9 |
n/a |
.280 Rem. (140 at 3000) |
8.0 |
17.2 |
11.8 |
7mm Rem. SAUM (160 at 2931) |
8.0 |
21.5 |
13.2 |
7mm WSM (160 at 3000) |
8.0 |
21.9 |
13.3 |
7mm Rem. Mag. (150 at 3100) |
8.5 |
19.2 |
12.1 |
7mm Wby. Mag. (140 at 3300) |
9.25 |
19.5 |
11.7 |
7mm STW (160 at 3185) |
8.5 |
27.9 |
14.6 |
7mm Ultra Mag. (160 at 3200) |
8.5 |
29.4 |
n/a |
.30 Carbine (110 at 1990) |
7.0 |
3.5 |
5.7 |
.30-30 Win. (150 at 2400) |
7.5 |
10.6 |
9.5 |
.30-30 Win. (170 at 2200) |
7.5 |
11.0 |
9.7 |
.300 Sav. (150 at 2630) |
7.5 |
14.8 |
n/a |
.307 Win. (150 at 2600)<
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good info, i would add that from what ive been experimenting with lately, that if i wear my custom fit ear plugs and a set of ear muffs over that i shoot better. i dont know if im alone in that finding, but it seems to me that the more noise you eliminate the better the results.
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Interesting... the .458 Lott has a higher recoil value than the .50BMG.
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+1 pyro6999.
We always double-up on hearing protection at the rifle and pistol ranges. It helps in a lot of ways.
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ive been thinking and i have come to the conclusion that recoil is not only felt in the shoulder, but also in the face, infact one member here who i wont name (tahqua) had the idea to stuff cotton balls in his nose to help eliminate noise from entering his nasal passages as well. recoil effects people in many ways as we all know.
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Kickboxer wrote:
Interesting... the .458 Lott has a higher recoil value than the .50BMG. |
Look at the comparative rifle weights. 10 pounds vs. 30 pounds.
A ten pound BMG would flat out kill you.
Edited by RONK - July/31/2009 at 17:45
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RONK wrote:
Kickboxer wrote:
Interesting... the .458 Lott has a higher recoil value than the .50BMG. |
Look at the comparative rifle weights. 10 pounds vs. 30 pounds.
A ten pound BMG would flat out kill you.
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it would be like shooting a 7lb 16.5" barreled .460wby
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Anyone else ever use this?:
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i do
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I was surprised to learn some time back that a heavier projectile, even in a heavier rifle with a lower fps will often kick harder (such as the 180gr vs. the 150gr .308 Win examples). But for some reason, the surplus 147gr FMJs that I shoot sometimes feel worse than the max. loaded 165 gr. Accubond/Varget rounds that are more or less my standard round these days. Velocities on the 147gr. rounds were avg. 2690 vs. avg. 2645 for the 165s. I wouldn't expect 45 fps to make such a difference, esp. given the lighter weight bullet.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Thanks Earl for that link, I'll use.
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That's my recoil table
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Ive used that one also Sam, not at a range though. I used it with a 300 Weatherby Mag. about 25 Years ago, then for some reason I stopped
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pyro6999 wrote:
RONK wrote:
Kickboxer wrote:
Interesting... the .458 Lott has a higher recoil value than the .50BMG. |
Look at the comparative rifle weights. 10 pounds vs. 30 pounds.
A ten pound BMG would flat out kill you.
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it would be like shooting a 7lb 16.5" barreled .460wby
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Mine with scope and bipod weighs 18lb. I can hardly wait...
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I distinctly remember the steel butplate of a 30-30 Win model 94 being quite a bit more painful than my bolt action 30-06 with its nice recoil pad so there are other factors at play.
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jonoMT wrote:
I was surprised to learn some time back that a heavier projectile, even in a heavier rifle with a lower fps will often kick harder (such as the 180gr vs. the 150gr .308 Win examples). But for some reason, the surplus 147gr FMJs that I shoot sometimes feel worse than the max. loaded 165 gr. Accubond/Varget rounds that are more or less my standard round these days. Velocities on the 147gr. rounds were avg. 2690 vs. avg. 2645 for the 165s. I wouldn't expect 45 fps to make such a difference, esp. given the lighter weight bullet. |
its the difference between recoil in ft/lbs and recoil velocity ft/sec, or the time frame over which the recoil is spread, if the recoil was in ft/lbs/sec the figures would be different.
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