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Hello all, I'm new to this forum, having only found it recently.  I've been toying with a new binocular project idea and wanted to get some thoughts and feedback from other people more knowledgeable about these things than myself. 

I like the electronic rangefinding bins, such as the Leupold and Leica, but the rangefinding addition adds cost, weight, and it's another spare battery to carry.  So I wondered why there aren't more binoculars with rangefinding reticles. 

In doing some searching, I found several models currently available (Leupold military, Steiner, Bushnell, etc.).  The problem is the reticles on those models are mil-dot style.  I personally feel that MOA is much easier for most people to use and understand.  Plus, most rifle turrets are graduated in MOA units.  So my idea is to have someone put a MOA rangefinding reticle into a pair of lightweight field bins, such as some 8x40s.  I'm thinking of a reticle similar to the Nightforce NP-R2 only modified for bin use.

From what I can tell, there's no downside to doing so.  There's no battery to die and there's no electronics to malfunction.  Granted, it won't be as accurate as an electronic rangefinder, but will work in all conditions, in all environments, and at all targets.  Since these bins would be used for hunting, 300 meters and less, accuracy from the rangefinding reticle would be plenty to make any adjustments necessary for a clean kill. 

At this point, I don't even know if I could get anyone to install a reticle like that for me. 

Anyone have any comments or thoughts on bins with rangefinding reticles?  

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Manufacturers respond to consumer demands whenever the market is sufficient enough to generate profit$.
 
From what we see on today's market, the demand must be rather 'limited' to military & police, for the most part.
 
Are the below links ones which you are already familiar with?
 
 
 


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A reticule in the field of view anyplace is nothing I want anything to do with.  I think there is a reason why they are not seen on hunting binoculars.  It is way too easy to figure range with the duplex crosshairs of your scope, provided 1- you take the time to figure out the subtension distances in your scope, and 2- have some idea of the size of the animal you are hunting.
 
A binocular is an instrument with one primary purpose and that is to magnify an image to give you increased detail.  I understand the wants behind a Leica Geovid, but why deal with more complex stuff.  Even then the Geovid concept still gives you an unfettered optical view when you don't push the range button.  A reticule is there in the way whether you need it, or want it there for that matter.  I'll gladly pack a spare battery should I happen to decide a binocular with range finding ability is something I might want (which is a ferociously slim possibility).
 
Besides, the ranges beyond 300 are where you need rangefinding.  Shoot a reasonably flat shooter like the 30-06, sight in in for 200 yards, and hold on the hair to 300.


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+1 Steve, simplicity usually wins me over.
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I think binos are do make sure its a shooter and the mil-dot scope or other range finding reticle is where my calculations start.
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I think you should shoot the binocular...
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