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I have an older Redfield Illuminator from the days of yore.  USA made.  Works fine and has held a zero for 8-10 years on the current 30-06 rifle, but it is time for some new glass.  I shoot from 40-200 yards primarily and will not hesitate to stretch to 300 but 300 is a long ways to me.

This forum recommended the Vortex Viper 2-7x32 close-out a couple years back and I purchased one - put it on a Ruger M77/357 magnum rifle.   Love everything about that gun and scope.  The Viper is brighter and clearer than my Redfield or a VX-II I purchased 5 years ago or less.

SO.  I'm scope hunting.  Keep seeing a Viper 3-9x40 ($300) and wondering if it will be as good as the 2-7x32 I have.

Otherwise, looking for something in the $600 and less range, would like to get either the same or better quality (light, clarity, etc.) as the viper I have now.  

What would you suggest if you were not suggesting a Leupold?  
(I'm just not convinced a VX-3 is better than my Viper.)
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The best way I have found is to order a selection of scopes and line them up in a row. As you look through them in fading light, the answer becomes obvious. Then I just send the one(s) I don't want back.  
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I really don't have the option to do that - tho' it seems like the best way to go about it.

I may stretch my buying power a little.  Even as far as looking at the Meopta Meostar R1 4-12.  

Seems funny comparing a $750 Meostar with a $300 Viper.  LOL!

I'd like to do this right the first time.  but like the idea of bang for my buck - don't mind the slight increase to $750 if the scope is about as good as I can get in that bracket.

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Well, I can't really help on current scopes like some of the regulars on here can. Last time I went through buying a scope I wound up with a Weaver Super Slam 2-10x. Caught on sale, there's nothing to touch that one that I have seen. I wasn't sure 'til I got it home and compared it to a low light scope I have full confidence in, but it amazed me. And it was a third the price of the other scope I thought I'd have to get. 

I will suggest that a 2-?x is a more appropriate scope at 40 to 200 yards. 7x will do 300 yards on a deer just fine, too. My own choice for that is a 1.5-6x. I have killed a heap more deer at 1.5x than 6x. Only time I want for higher magnification is at the range. I need different targets for lower powers than for higher to get as tight groups.

So, if the 2-7x suits otherwise it might be worth it to get another.

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I see a lot of references to Weaver these days.  They weren't that good back then.  But things change and some go up, others go down.

I appreciate the insight.  I would feel comfortable shooting 200 with my 7x - and would prefer a 2-10 power scope over a 1-6 or 2-7.  

The reason I had the 4-12 on there is that is what they make that is priced right.  I'm not into the long range faze but will shoot 300 comfortably.  My favorite stands are 200 yards or less.  
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