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I need some serious help deciding on my next scope.  Whacko
 
I know that my rifle and loads are spot-on for shots on game out to 600 yards, as I have gone through the trial and error phase while reloading.  However, a 12 year old 4 X 12 Leupold VXII sits atop my rifle.  I want to get BDC knobs to eliminate holdover but this scope doesn't come back to zero when I adjust from 500 back to 100 yards, for example.
 
Can I get a scope without breaking the bank that REALLY can handle the adjustments and come back to the same place on target where it was zeroed?  Repeatable adjustments are just as important to me as anything a scope has to offer.
 
By the way, upper-end scopes are waaay out of my price range right now.  Sightrons, mid-range Leupolds, Burris and so forth are more my target market.
 
Thank you for your help.
 
 
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I have a couple of suggestions for you. Since we are talking about a hunting scope why not consider a Leupold VXIII but not just any over the counter scope - one custom ordered from Leupold with either target knobs (the ones with the screw on cover) or M1 tactical knobs like are used on the Mk4 scopes. The custom shop can do a balistic reticle if you like or make balistic compensated knobs with marks corresponding to the ammo you choose. This can be much less expensive than one might think and highly practical. 
The other option is select somthing that has target knobs and I will show a couple of possible options.
SS10X42 SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope                                                                                       SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
SWFA: $299.95
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SS10X42M SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope                                                                                       SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
SWFA: $399.95
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LEU58630 Leupold 6x42 FX-III Competition Hunter Riflescope                                                                       Leupold 6x42 FX-III Competition Hunter Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Target Dot
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Index Matched Lens System
SWFA: $469.95
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LEU58650 New Leupold 12x40 FX-III Riflescope                                                                                     New Leupold 12x40 FX-III Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Fine Duplex
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Target Knobs
  • Index Matched Lens System
SWFA: $529.95
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[QUOTE=Urimaginaryfrnd]I have a couple of suggestions for you. Since we are talking about a hunting scope why not consider a Leupold VXIII but not just any over the counter scope - one custom ordered from Leupold with either target knobs (the ones with the screw on cover) or M1 tactical knobs like are used on the Mk4 scopes. The custom shop can do a balistic reticle if you like or make balistic compensated knobs with marks corresponding to the ammo you choose. This can be much less expensive than one might think and highly practical. 
The other option is select somthing that has target knobs and I will show a couple of possible options.
SS10X42 SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope                                                                                       SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
SWFA: $299.95
More Info... Buy Now

SS10X42M SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope                                                                                       SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
SWFA: $399.95
More Info... Buy Now
LEU58630 Leupold 6x42 FX-III Competition Hunter Riflescope                                                                       Leupold 6x42 FX-III Competition Hunter Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Target Dot
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Index Matched Lens System
SWFA: $469.95
More Info...
LEU58650 New Leupold 12x40 FX-III Riflescope                                                                                     New Leupold 12x40 FX-III Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Fine Duplex
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Target Knobs
  • Index Matched Lens System
SWFA: $529.95
More Info...
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Thanks!
 
I'm not that familiar with the SWFA line.  Do they have a decent rep for good tracking, etc? 
 
Also, I'm shooting a Tikka in a .270wsm.  Are there better mounts out there than the factory ones that clamp onto the top of the receiver?
 
Again, I very much appreciate your help.  This is a great site!
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Huff143,

Look at  the Talley mounts that are made for a Tikka - way better than the factory supplied ones. Also, they are reasonably priced.
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Huff, welcome to Optics Talk. Yes the SS is a very good tracking scope. It's well known for repeatability, and also to be very solid and dependable. You won't get a better scope for the money spent.
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Also check out http://www.swfa.com/pc-12945-1512-new-sightron-35-10x44-siii-30mm-riflescope.aspx - $704.95. A little higher but if you want a variable w/target knobs and good glass/tracking this might be the one.

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Originally posted by huff143 huff143 wrote:

Thanks!
 
I'm not that familiar with the SWFA line.  Do they have a decent rep for good tracking, etc? 
 
Also, I'm shooting a Tikka in a .270wsm.  Are there better mounts out there than the factory ones that clamp onto the top of the receiver?
 
Again, I very much appreciate your help.  This is a great site!



Take the rings that came with your Tikka and throw them in the trash - worst rings I have ever used!  (It is a great gun, though - I own a few and love them all.  Bolt is smooth as butter right out of the box.)


Is your gun a T3 Lite or something esle?  The SuperSniper is a great scope but will throw off the balance of a smaller gun.  The IOR is also a good scope but might be a bit heavy on the top of a 7-pound gun.

My favorite mounts and rings for Tikka are the Talleys with integral base (mounts to the holes in the receiver, mount and lower ring section are one peice, nice setup.)  Warnes are also good but mount vertically and are a little tricky to align the first few times.



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Thanks for all the great replies!  I will definitely look into the Talley mounts.
 
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Yes, my Tikka is a T3 Lite.  It's my first one but won't be the last.  That thing is a tack-driver.
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No question go with the 6.5x20 LRT from Leupold.
You can get one from competitor right now for $669.00, cant get a better scope for that kind of money.
I believe SWFA will match or beat that price but you have to check with them.
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Originally posted by huff143 huff143 wrote:

I know that my rifle and loads are spot-on for shots on game out to 600 yards, as I have gone through the trial and error phase while reloading.  However, a 12 year old 4 X 12 Leupold VXII sits atop my rifle.  I want to get BDC knobs to eliminate holdover but this scope doesn't come back to zero when I adjust from 500 back to 100 yards, for example.


I get the feeling from your post that you like your scope but the repeatability issue is why you want to replace it. So just a thought but your repeatability problems may stem from not having your scope mounted properly. Plus the issue with Tikka rings. I used to have repeatability problems myself until I learned how to mount my scopes properly. There probably is a discussion on this topic else where in this forum.

Plus if it is the scope, talk with Leupold since your scope probably has a life time warrantte. And their custom shop could make you some BDC reticles. Or you could look at Keyton (SP??) for some.

Hope this helps.
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Sparky,
 
I'll bet you're right.  It probably is those junk rings.  They look like something that should be mounted on a Daisy 880 pellet rifle.  I have a heavy varmint .223 with Leupold rings and base that I'll swap it over to and see if that works.
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Rancid:
Is this the set up to which you refer>
I have T3 Hunter with 4200.
Thanks
 
930714 Talley Lightweight Aluminum 1 Scopemount                                                                               Talley Lightweight Aluminum 1" Scopemount
  • Knight MK85
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  • Tikka T3
  • Matte
  • Low
  • 1"
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I will second the Talley Lightweights. I used them on my latest rifle, and will use them from now on. Love them.
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