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Hey guys,  anybody know what the deal is with the extractors on the Remington 700's.  I have read some that they break easy.  I just recently bought a 700 XCR Magnum bolt.  I read alot on this specific rifle and haven't read about any extractor problems.  I have, however, read about the SPS model.  Anybody know of any difference and this problem. 
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Here's my deal on Remy extractors.
Thousands of rounds, never a problem, calibers .223 through .375 H&H. 
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If Remington was having a problem with extractors the military wouldn't be using them for sniper rifles. That's just MHO.
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I've seen 2 Remington extractors break, both on a buddy's varmint rifles that have digested many 1000's of rounds before the failure.  In comparison to some other extractor designs, the M700 extractor is pretty thin and brittle.   I still believe they are very reliable for the most part, though.   I doubt there's such a thing as any manufactured item that's 100% immune to failure.
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True, nothing is guaranteed to last forever, some longer then others though.  I was just doing some reading and saw some people complaining about it so thought I would ask. 
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Remington uses two extractors that look identical and function identical on the 700's. One is riveted in and the other snaps in. I don't recall which one is the better of the two, but either way they tend to have very few problems. The Sako extractor conversion on 700's was very much in vogue for a while and I fell into the flow of that one myself. It does function perfectly but it has to be done by a gunsmith who is very familiar with the conversion and knows how to do it correctly. To be honest, if I were doing it today, I would save the loot or spend it elsewhere. Whether you have a XCR, BDL, CDL, ADL, SPS etc does not matter as they all use the same type of extractor. As Dale stated, it would take an assload of shooting to break a Remmy extractor, whether it be the riveted or snap in version. Shoot it and have fun.

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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

If Remington was having a problem with extractors the military wouldn't be using them for sniper rifles. That's just MHO.
 
I don't think the ones they use are stock.
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As far as the military Remingtons are concerned, Remington is using an M-16 type conversion on the boltface of some of their sniper/LE Custom Shop rifles. The 40X Tactical chambered in 338 Lapua uses the M-16 conversion with a repositioned plunger. Just for the record.

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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

If you can break it, I'll pay to have it fixed.
 
 
+2 I'll fix it if it brakes. Free of charge.
 
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I haven't put 1000s of rounds thru my 700, but no problems so far.
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

If you can break it, I'll pay to have it fixed.
 
 
+2 I'll fix it if it brakes. Free of charge.
 


Does that include shipping?  I broke one just last night.








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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

If you can break it, I'll pay to have it fixed.
 
 
+2 I'll fix it if it brakes. Free of charge.
 


Does that include shipping?  I broke one just last night.









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I meant I was kidding about breaking it.  I have over 3000 out of mine and it is doing fine.
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Out of working on rifles I have fixed 2. They are pretty easy to fix but not a common part that brakes.

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Originally posted by tpdoff tpdoff wrote:

Hey guys,  anybody know what the deal is with the extractors on the Remington 700's.  I have read some that they break easy.  I just recently bought a 700 XCR Magnum bolt.  I read alot on this specific rifle and haven't read about any extractor problems.  I have, however, read about the SPS model.  Anybody know of any difference and this problem. 


I was able to gather some more Intel for you and it should put your mind more at ease. Of the three gunsmiths I spoke with who all have alot of experience with 700's, all stated that these extractors are relatively trouble free. Apparently, some of these reports come from owners who try to remove the extractor for whatever reason and then try to reuse it. They were not intended to be used that way. If you had to remove the extractor clip for any reason, replace it with a new one. The riveted in type is apparently still being used on rifles with a magnum bolt face and of the two, that is the weaker one according to the smiths I spoke with. Again, the smiths stated that they are just about as strong and the only reason they changed the design was to cut down on manufacturing costs, not because it needed to be beefed up. Just thought this info might help ease any concerns you might be having.

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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

If Remington was having a problem with extractors the military wouldn't be using them for sniper rifles. That's just MHO.
 
I don't think the ones they use are stock.
I was reading the specs for the Remington M40-A3 recently and I saw no mention of the extractor in the modifications. I'm not disputing that they modify the extractors (since I haven't seen a M40 in years) I just haven't seen any mention of mod.s to the extractor.
Kinda makes the new FN bolt action (pre-64 Winchester Mod. 70 action design) tempting.
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Checkout the Remington's at the following page. www.remingtonle.com If you're running dial-up it will take awhile. There are a couple of new Remington's that will be getting the new "external extractor" as Remington calls it. Two new Custom Shop rifles slated for later this year are getting them as well. The 40X Ti Hunter and 40X Hunter. All feature the M-16 style conversion.


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Hey guys,  I really appriciate the words of wisdom.  I suppose I wasn't worried about mine breaking, more for the info.  Prior to reading those very few, unfortunate soles that did break theirs, I hadn't heard of any problems.  I was curious if this was an ongoing problem or just a couple isolated ones.  

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IME the riveted ones are not as good as the old snap ins. I just had a SAKO extractor put in a 700 classic magnum that was rebarreled to 244 Holland & Holland which is an extractor tester between the body taper and quite high pressure. (It is the only 700 or 721,722 or 725 that has ever been a problem including a dozen or so hot rods like 300 H&H, 264 winmag.) It is a problem no more, it yanks them out like a 98 Mauser. The SAKO does put more meat on the rim but IMO, it's a rare gun that needs it.
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30mikemike " the riveted ones are not as good as the old snap ins. I just had a SAKO extractor put in a 700 classic magnum that was rebarreled to 244 Holland & Holland which is an extractor tester between the body taper and quite high pressure. (It is the only 700 or 721,722 or 725 that has ever been a problem including a dozen or so hot rods like 300 H&H, 264 winmag.) It is a problem no more, it yanks them out like a 98 Mauser. The SAKO does put more meat on the rim but IMO, it's a rare gun that needs it. "
 
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