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This might not be the appropriate category to post this but does anyone have any information about the future of the Remington 700?  With all the competitors updating or coming out with new designs you'd think remington would do the same, especially with new owners who appear aggressive.  One very reputable internet retailer is advertising the last of the 700 actions for sale.  I'm only speculating here but I wonder if we're do for an update in design?

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I just bought a 700. If it is anything like the cars I buy (or computers or cameras or whatever), no sooner do I buy the latest and greatest model, then WHAM!, they update it.
So yes, they will be updating it.
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how about a three position safety for starters like the Remington 725 had.......?
 
How about a longer length of pull so some of us grown ups could shoot the rifle without our thumbs punching us in the nose??
 
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

how about a three position safety for starters like the Remington 725 had.......?


Ah Ed, I should crotch kick you for saying that.  Three position safeties blow the big one.
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Why not just do away with the safety altogether!!!???    Bucky    
 
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Now that is a fantastic idea, it would be just like a glock. Thinking
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I don't know if this will ever make it's way onto the production 700's, however, Remington has modified their extractors on some of the LE versions of the 40X's and also 2 of the Custom Shop sporters slated to be released this year, the 40X Ti and 40X Hunter. The new extractor is basically a M-16 blade type with a repositioned ejector plunger. They have a new trigger also that is on 700's as we speak. I, for one, hope they don't try to redesign the 700 other than what they have already done. New and improved can also mean cheaper and phucked up these days. Look at the new Model 70, for instance. People are already saying the newly designed trigger is not as good as the original one, as far as simplicity is concerned.
 
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I love the 3 position safety, but I guess thats a personal thing,  I'd like  remington to do something new to the 25cal, something like a .25rsaum, something winchester should have done instead of the wssm.
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FWIW, I'm with Ed. I like the 3 position safeties.
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The only thing I would really like to see Remington change with the 700 is that lousy bolt stop design and go to a simpler, more positive button style bolt stop on the side of the receiver like most bolt action manufacturers use.  I HATE the cheapo sliding stamped metal piece attached to the trigger housing/pivoting blade arrangement they use!
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I would be tickled with a owner adjustable trigger, that won't void the warrenty when you adjust it!Sharp%20ShooterA third sling stud would be nice too.
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With all the shake ups lately with Remington and ownership ---wouldn't doubt a new design, but I fear it may different ( AKA -cheaper) just for the sake of being different.
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

I would be tickled with a owner adjustable trigger, that won't void the warrenty when you adjust it!Sharp%20ShooterA third sling stud would be nice too.
 
 
 
a owner adjustable trigger  +2       That would certainly boost sales, But it would be insane to get too far from one of the most copied actions out there. I hope they don't mess that up. Whacko
If anybody has a used Rem 700 stainless long action (any cal.) I'm looking. I don't care if the barrel is bent, cut or busted as long as the action is good. 
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Originally posted by supertoot73 supertoot73 wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

how about a three position safety for starters like the Remington 725 had.......?


Ah Ed, I should crotch kick you for saying that.  Three position safeties blow the big one.
well you better line me up too supertoot, cause i too agree, i dont like the rem 2 pos safety, eventhough you can open and close the bolt with the safety on i prefer the m70 style as well.
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

I would be tickled with a owner adjustable trigger, that won't void the warrenty when you adjust it!Sharp%20ShooterA third sling stud would be nice too.
ah to hell with the warranty crap just take it out and adjust it
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Whoa!  I wasn't expecting so much interest.  I really was wondering if somebody had heard or read something about new designs.  What I had in mind were changes like 3 lugs for a 60 degree bolt lift or even more radical ideas possible with CNC machining like integral scope bases.  Please don't get me wrong; I like the simplicity and strength of the present design.  But it seems like things are constantly evolving, hence my question.

Anyway I guess everybody is familar with the 700's history and mandate; a simple and inexpensively produced firearm.  At least that's my understanding.   But if I were to make a wish list number 1 would be a bolt lock and number 2 would be modifications for a smoother working bolt.  Number 3 would be a 60 degree bolt lift as long as the bolt retained the simplicity of the present bolt.  I like the new trigger and the stock dimensions of the CDL, XCR and Mountain Rifles - much better than the new Sako 85 and Browning X-Bolt.  If you're listening Remington, keep the stock.  Slightly longer LOP measurements would be okay but no weird futuristic shapes or shrunken buttstocks.
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i love my new m700 cdl sf with the new xmark pro trigger very nice rifle and the trigger is very nice, mine came from the factory set at 4lbs i moved it to 3lbs
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Originally posted by timber timber wrote:

Anyway I guess everybody is familar with the 700's history and mandate; a simple and inexpensively produced firearm.  At least that's my understanding.   But if I were to make a wish list number 1 would be a bolt lock and number 2 would be modifications for a smoother working bolt.  Number 3 would be a 60 degree bolt lift as long as the bolt retained the simplicity of the present bolt.  I like the new trigger and the stock dimensions of the CDL, XCR and Mountain Rifles - much better than the new Sako 85 and Browning X-Bolt.  If you're listening Remington, keep the stock.  Slightly longer LOP measurements would be okay but no weird futuristic shapes or shrunken buttstocks.
 
 
 
If you haven't already handled one, try to check out The 700 Mountain Rifle. One of the guys got his a few weeks back and for right out of the box the bolt was impressively smooth. The trigger was set at 3lb. which is where I prefer my stuff. He also has a Sendero and between the two the Mountain edges out the Sendero by a hair for balance, weight and looks. I was injured in a riot in 05 and lost some strength in my left arm, but was able to hold free hand very well with the Mountain. I think after I recover from this rifle build I may have to get one for days when this beat up carcus is giving extra trouble. Crutch
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Originally posted by timber timber wrote:

Whoa!  I wasn't expecting so much interest.  I really was wondering if somebody had heard or read something about new designs.  What I had in mind were changes like 3 lugs for a 60 degree bolt lift or even more radical ideas possible with CNC machining like integral scope bases.  Please don't get me wrong; I like the simplicity and strength of the present design.  But it seems like things are constantly evolving, hence my question.

 
Well if your going to change it enough to put 3 lugs on the bolt (not a bad idea) then why not make a straight pull bolt like a Schmidt Rubin M35. I don't think you could call it a 700 though. This would make it a faster rifle, and the dang bolt knob wouldn't beat my trigger finger up on the heavy recoiling rifles.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

how about a three position safety for starters like the Remington 725 had.......?
 
How about a longer length of pull so some of us grown ups could shoot the rifle without our thumbs punching us in the nose??
 
...........................You must really have a big scnhAAAAz (nose) there Ed!...Smile..........My little Ruger Frontier has only a 12.5" LOP and yet my thumb is no where near my nose!.....You tryin to smoooch with your ocular lens or somethin???????....Your suppose to shoot your rifle and not,,,,,,,,,,,,Quickie................................Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing
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If you haven't already handled one, try to check out The 700 Mountain Rifle. One of the guys got his a few weeks back and for right out of the box the bolt was impressively smooth. The trigger was set at 3lb. which is where I prefer my stuff. He also has a Sendero and between the two the Mountain edges out the Sendero by a hair for balance, weight and looks. I was injured in a riot in 05 and lost some strength in my left arm, but was able to hold free hand very well with the Mountain. I think after I recover from this rifle build I may have to get one for days when this beat up carcus is giving extra trouble. Crutch[/QUOTE]
 
My 700 Mountain LSS 260 is a couple of years old, my 700 Wood ADL 308 is much older.  The ADL is smoother by a hair than the Mountain but both are smoother than my nephews' 700's in 270.  I wonder if the short actions are by nature (physics) smoother than the long actions.
 
However my Sako 85 is smoother than all our 700's.  Ditto for my now sold Tikka Hunter 270WSM.  It's nice to hear that your buddy's new Mountain was smooth right from the start - I need to check one out soon. 
 
I can say that my gunsmith told me to not be afraid to put a little grease on the locking lugs (not the whole bolt and especially not the breech face), the operative word being 'little'.  I always understood to only use an oily rag on the bolt (and lugs) but tried his suggestion to no ill affect.  It did noticeably smooth out the action going in and out of battery.  His recommendation was 'Shooter's Choice' All Weather High-Tech Grease.  I'm sure other brands would work too.  I do wonder how I'm going to clean out grease inside the receiver that would seem to want to accumulate over time.
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

how about a three position safety for starters like the Remington 725 had.......?
 
How about a longer length of pull so some of us grown ups could shoot the rifle without our thumbs punching us in the nose??
 
...........................You must really have a big scnhAAAAz (nose) there Ed!...Smile..........My little Ruger Frontier has only a 12.5" LOP and yet my thumb is no where near my nose!.....You tryin to smoooch with your ocular lens or somethin???????....Your suppose to shoot your rifle and not,,,,,,,,,,,,Quickie................................Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing
 
Big Squeeze is just a "diguise-forum-name"....Squeezer is really a pygmy with a 11 inch collar and a REAL SHORT NECK....hence 12.5" LOP is LARGE on him!!! ( His big GUT and the Humongous gluteus maximus' are a big help in his tolerating large recoil, however....) 
 
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