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Hey guys, just discovered the site. Looks like most are experts here and know what they are talking about or just good at pretending. Haha

Anyway here is my question. I recently purchased a Remington 700 .308 Tactical bolt-action blah blah blah. Bought a Harris 1A2 Model LM for it now its time to decide what scope to mount on my newest toy. Of course if I had the funds for such a sight it would be the Leupold Mark 4 however the 1.2k is not an option. Long story short I have around a $300 cap of the optics I so choose to purchase. The guy at the gun shop I bought my rifle turned me on to the Millet TRS-1 but after reading some disgruntled reviews about it I am at a crossroad. The scope seemed fine at first glance but I would like other opinions. Please any imput would be appericated. Thanks in advance.
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SWFA SS 10x is the way to go.  http://www.swfa.com/pc-4304-2760-swfa-ss-10x42-tactical-riflescope.aspx  It is the best fixed power "tactical" scope you can buy for under $1000
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HOW DOES THE 16x MATCH UP ? I GOT THE SAME ISSUE, BUT A .300WM, AND ABOUT 600 TO SPEND. LOOKING AT THE NIKON MONARCH 6 - 24X, OR THE SS 20X.
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I would take the variable power on that. You may not want 20X for all conditions
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Who actually makes the SS scopes? Where are they made?

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It's made for SWFA but I think Bushnell makes the scope. Really I have no clue, I only know two things. 1. I have tested the scope myself and other than there being no variable out there (fixed power only) It will perform to it's hype. 2. Chris Farris stands 100% behind the scope, if you have a problem with one he'll handle it. You can take that like Moses got it on the tablets. 

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The Super Sniper is Hyped up.
 It also lives up to that Hype.
 Exceptional scope.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

SWFA SS 10x is the way to go.  http://www.swfa.com/pc-4304-2760-swfa-ss-10x42-tactical-riflescope.aspx  It is the best fixed power "tactical" scope you can buy for under $1000
 
Yeah, sounds like a broken record around here but........
 
Welcome to Optics Talk and good luck with your SS.  Wink
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

It's made for SWFA but I think Bushnell makes the scope. Really I have no clue, I only know two things. 1. I have tested the scope myself and other than there being no variable out there (fixed power only) It will perform to it's hype. 2. Chris Farris stands 100% behind the scope, if you have a problem with one he'll handle it. You can take that like Moses got it on the tablets. 

Ok, thanks. Yeah, I read that other thread where the guy had an older version with some black spots on the reticule, and Chris took care of it I guess. I'm thinking about trying one.
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To each his own, but I couldn't go with fixed on a 308. Take a look at these on the sample list. I'm sure you would like either one.
 

 

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Bushnell 3-9x40 Elite 4200

423944M, Matte finish, plex retilce, 1" tube, rainguard coatings, fast focus eye piece, ring marks

 

$199.95

 

 

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Bushnell 5-15x40 Elite 3200

325156M, Matte finish, fire fly reticle, 1" tube, adjustable objective, fast focus eye piece, close to new condition

 

$259.95

 
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awesome input guy. thanks a bunch. so the Millet TRS-1 is dookie? is this confirmed? i have taken a liking to the SWFA SS 10x but reading reviews and such about it? so this is the way to go?
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If you're going to be shooting distances beyond 600 yards I'd also check how much internal adjustment a scope has.
 
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If it's an LTR or PSS, eventually you'll want to put something more versatile on it. So I'd go with a scope that has good resale value. I'm sure an SS or either of the two Sgt. D recommended would be good choices. Personally, I'd prefer the 10X SS with mil-dot reticle over the fire fly reticle unless you're going to stay under 300 yards.
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If you go fixed, stay with the 10x. 
 
edited to add; - for more versatility than a 16x or a 20x. Still rather specialized for the longer distance work, though...


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Leupold Mark 4 -- You bought a $1000 rifle, you should put a comparable scope on it. Stop drinking beer, eating at Burger King. Serious shooting is not cheap. How serious are you going to get?

Yes, as a matter of fact, I have a Rem. 700 Police, Leupold Mark 4, base/rings, Alumina hood, lens covers, and just dropped in a Jewel trigger. It's running about $3K right now. But I just had a birthday, and I'm not getting any younger.

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I bought a $1000 rifle too and shot a lot of deer, antelope and elk with a $269 Leupold 4X. Now I have a scope that cost more than the rifle. It's not like the rifle is going to wear out if he shoots it with a lesser scope for a year or two. Given the right choice, he can resell it for at least half of that $300 and put the proceeds into something better. Meanwhile, he can shoot and learn what he likes and doesn't like before dumping a load of dough into high-priced optics.
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

I bought a $1000 rifle too and shot a lot of deer, antelope and elk with a $269 Leupold 4X. Now I have a scope that cost more than the rifle. It's not like the rifle is going to wear out if he shoots it with a lesser scope for a year or two. Given the right choice, he can resell it for at least half of that $300 and put the proceeds into something better. Meanwhile, he can shoot and learn what he likes and doesn't like before dumping a load of dough into high-priced optics.


Yeah, I can see your point entirely. Besides which, you can always put whatever you settle for in optics on some other rifle. But  he's  got  the "Rem. 700 Tactical, blah, blah,  blah . . . "  I assume it's the Rem. 700 Police -- which is pretty much the M24 used by the Army,  the M40 in the Marines.

Lately, the military is using the Leupold Mark 4 . . . what can I say? Yeah, it's a lot of money. But my point of view is that I'm not getting any younger, and these days (because I'm not a kid any more) cash flow and expense has ceased to be an issue.

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Originally posted by Oculus Capitalis Oculus Capitalis wrote:

Besides which, you can always put whatever you settle for in optics on some other rifle.


Well, that's true too. And I'm sorry...didn't mean to jump on you for recommending the Mark 4. I just meant that a shooter can get a lot of experience out of a fixed scope, be it a  4X or 10X and then decide if it's worth it to move up.
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I know the Mark4 and its capabilities. I spent 6 years in the army and am very familiar with the m24 system. If you would read my post I have a budget set for the time being. I think I have decided on the Bushnell 5-15x40 Elite 3200.
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I would step down in magnification and step up with optics go with the 4200? you will be glad you did?
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The Bushnell 4200 4-16x40 is a really nice scope and the knobs are useable as target knobs but are much shorter than most target knobs and have covers so that it works out very well. I think the difference in price is well worth the quality you get with the 4200.
What you give up when you go to the Bushnell scopes compared to the SS is the amount of internal adjustment.  The Super Sniper has about 120 moa of internal adjustment little else does.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

The Bushnell 4200 4-16x40 is a really nice scope and the knobs are useable as target knobs but are much shorter than most target knobs and have covers so that it works out very well. I think the difference in price is well worth the quality you get with the 4200.
What you give up when you go to the Bushnell scopes compared to the SS is the amount of internal adjustment.  The Super Sniper has about 120 moa of internal adjustment little else does.


so id be better off going with the

Bushnell 3-9x40 Elite 4200
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The Bushnell 3200 and 4200s are a little light on the adjustment range...appears to be only 50 MOA. But with a 20 MOA base you can get out to 900 yards. If that's enough, the 3200 will be closer to your budget.
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Don't bother with the Bushnell 4200 for a long range scope that you are going to be making lots of adjustments all the time.  They are not made for that kind of shooting and is not going to cut it. 

Seriously if you can live with a fixed power, get the SS 10x, you won't find a better scope for what you are wanting to do for under $1000 variable or not. 

Chances are you will probably be satisfied enough with it you may never need anything else.  I have a couple so called "tactical" scopes in the $1100 to $1500 range and the SS10x I have in reality does a pretty good job of holding its own.  Glass quality is not as good, but adjustment, repeatability, durability wise, the SS is tough to beat.
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