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Anyone have any comments/experience on these new firearms by Remington?  I want to know who came up with the triangular tube? ugly but kind of cool with the integrated break. But, how does it shoot out of the box?  
 
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I bet it is still just guaranteed as 1 MOA like all their other heavy barreled guns.  The advantage is they were able to make it lighter by using less barrel material because it is triangular instead of round.  Which they claim also makes it more rigid.  But part of the rigidity would have to be that the barrel is 4 inches shorter than the regular barrel length.  Then they had to add the muzzle break to tame the recoil a bit more because it was lighter and shorter which would add recoil. 
So in the end you get a lighter and shorter gun which could be good for certain types of shooting, but then you have to have an obnoxious break that is not really needed on any of those calibers.  I just don't see the point. 
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Actually, while I have no experience with this particular model I can see the reasons for what they did.  The muzzle break is actually there not to reduce recoil, but to reduce barrel flip upwards which is important in a tactical rifle where getting back on sight of the intended target rapidly is of utmost importance.  The 204 has minimal recoil and is suppose to allow one to see what happens to the target after pulling the trigger, but with a shortened barrel, this may not be the case.  With the other calibers, while the recoil is mild, save for slightly more recoil of the 308, the muzzle break which is vented only at the top, will minimize the barrel flip upwards.  Now how effective it is, is another story.  As far as the triangular barrel and the theory of rapid heat dissipation, thats another story altogether also.  A pencil thin Wby. barrel dissipates heat rapidly, but also heats up rapidly.  Less metal means less time to heat up and cool down.  Just like a cast iron skillet, but in the opposite fashion.  More time to heat up and a longer time to cool down.
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I can see both those points.

a.)Lessen the barrel flip and

b.)what is the point of the break with those chamberings. If it could be offered in .243, .25 cal or even .270, .280, .300 wm offerings that would be a plus. Those are all inherently flat shooting cal.

 

it interested me in the fact that it is a “Varmint-Tactical” style rifle, kinda what I’m looking for right now.., it could serve as a handy gun. I could definitely see its useful in mobility when trecking around and lessening of the barrel flip. I guess this is Rem’s whol e idea in weight reduction in that it is 7.5 lbs. Actually, the XCR Compact Tactical is 2” shorter and weighs the same. oal is 39 ¾”.  AND has externally adjustable trigger.

 

Its all relative I guess, but bottom line, if it shoots precisely and consistently .. .. ..

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It appears theoretically to be addressing barrel flip as was mentioned before. The flattened surface and the combined angel are suppose to help stiffen the barrel and direct the load force to counter any recoil lift. That effect added to the break direction should make it much easier to keep the target in view to see the impact result. I could see the value of that, especially for varmint hunters. I'm sure it will also capture the attention of anyone who wants the latest/greatest on the market as well.
 
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