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I guess this could go in the shooting category.  I finally go to take my new toy to the range.  Shooting at 100 yards off a bipod, no rear bag (forgot to throw it in the truck before I left).  Hear is what I came up with.
 
 
The gun seemed to shoot ok with all of the rounds.  It really liked the 50 gr Hornady Vmax.  These were are factory loads, so I can tweek any of them when I get a chance to reload.  I didn't get to shoot the Hornady at much.  I shot the 5 shot group shown (4 in the mag, 1 in the chamber).  Checked the brass after shooting the group.  Here is what I found.  I will be calling Hornady as soon as I can get ahold of them.
 
 
Three of the five had two cracks, and two had one crack.  This was a new box I bought this morning before heading to that range.  I shoot hornady in my 270 (140 gr light mag) and 300 win mag (180 gr heavy mag), and have never had a problem with the Hornady brass (Frontier).  I want to talk to them and see what they say.  Maybe I just got a bad batch.  The remington brass and winchester brass had no problems. 
 
Range conditions - no wind to light,  overcast with occasional light drizzle, and 50 degrees.
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OOOOH --- Woman who fly upside down have crackup. ..... Not good. Remington sometimes have very tight tolerances.
Try measuring the shell length and the Shot & unshot case length. Maybe a bullet seating issue


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ive seen cracks like that in my 22-250 as well but usually its after being reloaded a fair number of times, i have had some similar issues with my 6.5rem mag though with brand new brass the problem was that the brass was briddle from the start, this could be the same case here too, looks like  your rifle groups very well andy congrats on a shooter!
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My Remington 700 VSF  in 22-250 love the Federal Premium loaded with 40 grain Noslers.

It has fired several 3 shot groups under a .25" at 100.

No pics of the rifle.Wink
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Is this what you looking for luv2shoot?  I posted some in the origianl thread asking what varmint gun to get, but I have no problem showing off my guns. Big%20Smile
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Nice shooting there, Helo18. Trust you will enjoy shooting this one for a long time. Can't help with the brass problem, other then it must be a batch issue if only one brand is doing it. Or they are loaded a bit hot?
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Thanks 8shots.  I am really going to enjoy this rifle this summer in Montana.  Will get to exercise it on the varmints quite a bit.  As for the brass, it has to be a bad batch.  They are factory loads.  I guess they could load them hot too if they had a miss calibration of equipement.  I am going to try to call them today and see what they say.
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Called Hornady.  They were very polite, knowledgeable, and helpful.  New box of ammo is on the way.  Thunbs%20Up  I am even more impressed with them after this experience.  Excellent  I have always been a big fan of hornady, and today just re-enforces that feeling.  And they have a great CS department.
 
The tech guy said the the box very well could be from a lot that they were having trouble with.  The frontier brass is manufacture for them by winchester.  They had one lot of brass that was sent to them by winchester that has a problem with cracking.  Guess it comes down to being brittle as pyo mentioned.  So it looks like the biggest cause is the cases themselves. 
 
Looking at the primers, I wonder if there may have been slightly high pressure, but they aren't bad.  On only one, you could catch your fingernail on the lip of the crater on the primer.  And that was barely at all.  I would say the pressure is fine, it is just the cases.
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I never had factory ammo give me that problem before!.......Geees!.........Yep! Hornady is very good to deal with. They even e/mailed me some loading data! Nice folks!..............Do I see an Elite scope on that rig??? LOOKS very familiar!!
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This is the first time I have ever had a problem with factory ammo.  I was surprised that is was hornady that I had a problem with because I buy a lot of their ammo, and it has always been very good stuff.

You are correct on the scope.  It is an Elite 4200 3-9x40.  Probably will switch it out at some point for a higher power since it is on a varmint rig (move it to my 270), but the scope performs nicely.  I really like the scope, and the gun.
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Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

This is the first time I have ever had a problem with factory ammo.  I was surprised that is was hornady that I had a problem with because I buy a lot of their ammo, and it has always been very good stuff.

You are correct on the scope.  It is an Elite 4200 3-9x40.  Probably will switch it out at some point for a higher power since it is on a varmint rig (move it to my 270), but the scope performs nicely.  I really like the scope, and the gun.
........................That`s my scope too! Identical!...........The Elite would be better for your 270!
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I have been thinking about maybe a 2.5-16x42 Elite 6500 for it.  Not really sure which way to go.  I could put my Black Diamond 4-16x50 on it.  Not really sure what I am going to do at this point.
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Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

I have been thinking about maybe a 2.5-16x42 Elite 6500 for it.  Not really sure which way to go.  I could put my Black Diamond 4-16x50 on it.  Not really sure what I am going to do at this point.
.....................If your Burris Black Diamond has no home to rest on (is an extra scope), put it on the 22-250 and then put the 3x9 4200 on the 270!............Why spend hundreds to get another scope if the Burris is an extra scope just laying around?
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I am actaully short a scope at this moment.  My black diamond sits on my 300 win mag, the 270 is scopeless (does have iron sights), ffII is on the 17 hmr, 4200 on the 22-250, and a simmons on my 22 lr.  I will need to get a new scope at some point.
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Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

I am actaully short a scope at this moment.  My black diamond sits on my 300 win mag, the 270 is scopeless (does have iron sights), ffII is on the 17 hmr, 4200 on the 22-250, and a simmons on my 22 lr.  I will need to get a new scope at some point.
....................Well, if that`s the case, put the Black Diamond on the 22-250. Better served there! The Black Diamond maybe a little too much magnification for the 300 mag? Then put your Elite 4200 on either the 270 or the 300 and get another 3x9 Elite 4200 at the great price of $249...WAA-LAA!....The best solution while most cost effective at the same time!
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Another Elite sounds nice.  I do some thousand yard stuff with my 300, so I would like to have a scope that has good higher end on it.  Maybe I should just put a 4200 on it and the 270, and then save up the money to put together a dedicated 1000 yard rifle.

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you dont really want to use the .270 when you have the .300 any way right??
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

you dont really want to use the .270 when you have the .300 any way right??
 
Laugh%20Above  For the most part, yes, I prefer the 300.  I do enjoy taking the 270 if I have to hike a lot because it is several pounds lighter.  My 270 has such a nice feel to it, and fits like a glove.  I have never missed a big game animal with it.  I missed once with my 300, but that was because I forgot to adjust my scope back down from the 600 yard setting.
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you know a m700 mountain rifle in a .280 rem would cure your illness  best part is that your still young so you have a great chance to make a full recovery too!!
 
 
 

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pyro Whacker helo.......oops, side effect of the illness.  what do they call it again, 270itis?
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i was actually thinking something along the lines of a custom in a 6.5mm for the next gun once i get some money saved up.
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yeah a 6.5stw made by  rifles inc. just like chris farris has would be sweet for knocking of mulies at 600yds
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