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I'm not sure this would actually be enacted into law, but the mere fact it is even suggested is outrageous!  Needless to say, this is yet another example of why we shooters have a never-ending fight ahead, and why our elected officials need to hear from us!Furious
 
 
 
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Read that "Treaty" Ted, it's a real piece of work.
 
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Yes, the treaty was SIGNED by president Clintoon, but was not ratified by the senate.  There is a whole new senate, now.  This is BIG trouble in River City.  
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  I got a STRONG stomach but not much in the way of patience.  This stuff is gettin old FAST!!
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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50671
 
The U.N. is where our problems will ultimately come from and the mere fact that our Bill of Rights exists will mean nothing to them because it will be World Law and supercede U.S. Law and enforced by U.N. troops.    Hide and watch this is going to get ugly.


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I wonder how they would go about getting the millions of rounds of reloaded ammo and all the componets for it out of our hands. The same for the encoded ammo if it were to pass into law.search and seizure?
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 Afraid the ONLY component they'd be gettin from me would be the bullets.  At about 3400fps!
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Well, many of our number voted Dem for "change".   We are sure getting a tidal wave of "CHANGE the Dems CAN BELIEVE"!  
 
The bail out of Sen. Specter yesterday was no real loss to America, he has always been a bigger gov. liberal anyway.
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The "Second Amendment March" is scheduled for next year, it might just have to be moved up.   Only problem I see about any of this is the current regime and the little dictator are going to ignore us like our rights have "already been revoked".

   Seems that if your not a lefty, or willing to change, that you will be "ignored" like a pest or a form of rodent.  Well, Im willing to change and I will say that they wont care for it in the end. If Im forced to do anything I dont want to do, as in "here take my country from me and do as you wish with it" then THEY will suffer, not I.

   You see, nobody is listening. The erra of political correctness has past!!!!!!

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They may take my life while I defend my rights against any form of tyranny be it from our own government or the U.N. They will not take my spirit, they will not take my liberty, and they will only get my guns when I no longer draw breath. What they must ask themselves is are they as prepared to meet their fate, as I am? If their answer is yes, then let the games begin.
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  They may ignore but they can't NOT be worried.  How would you like to be them knowing they're pissing off the most highly armed citizenship in the world?   American Flag

 



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I know that I am not by a long shot alone in my thoughts. I have but one concern, that is that there are too many of us that are too far from others. How long before those others get ticked enough to finally take a stand. How many Ruby Ridge, or Waco instances does it take? How long will we stand still and watch as the media is used to pervert the true meaning of what our government is really up to? If they were to descend upon myself and my neighbors tonight, they would surely have a serious battle on their hands. Question is this, outside of whether we would win or lose, would that wake up enough people to finally say that's enough. We aren't going to take this anymore. Make no mistake this is at present a "Cold War" with a few media twisted skirmishes here and there. The media, and schools are being used against us, effectively too. We the patriotic hearted, God fearing, and constitutionally correct are being labeled as "Extremists" Just how in the Hell does being a freedom loving, self sufficient, responsible, and constitutionally correct citizen make one an "extremist"? What more do we need to recognize the very serious threat that we face, than to have our government label us this way. We have done nothing but rattle our sabers to this point, yet they group us, the same as the far left extremists, that have bombed, and terrorized those that they deem the enemy. How much more are we going to take? In the name of freedom, how much more can we take? 
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  I HONESTLY wish I could answer your concerns. Just so many ways this could go down.  I will say that I feel that if our country collapses so will the rest of the countries of the world.  I also feel that the mayhem will be in our cities where their "flee to the country plans" will collapse.  I've seen the planned evacuation routes for the Baltimore-D.C. metropolitan area. They'll never make it out of their beltways.
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I already know what and how. I see too many things that are leading in that direction. There will be a treatise signed with the U.N. that will basically nullify our rights, and our men and women in uniform will be called away to another country at the U.N.s behest. You can bet that the U.N. will then send or activate it's military here. The state militias (National Guards) will then become federalized and activated, leaving only the police and civilians to fend off the onslaught. We will be detained, and sent to concentration camps, where we will be summarily executed. The details are far more complex than what I have written here. This is only a basic summary. Mark my words, there is another attack coming, and another larger scale media hyped "pandemic" that will call for martial law to be instituted.
Take all the things that are known to be true and start connecting the dots. The truth is out there, and is only written in small fragments here and there.
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Red Dawn.   3 years ago, I was accused of being a wako.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Only the sheeple think we're wackos. Their eyes will be opened soon though not soon enough to avoid what's in the near dawn.
There was talk of a constitutional convention in order to write an amendment that would nullify any treaty that violates the rights of the citizenship. What happened to that? Isaakson I believe was one of the sponsors behind this. Was this too American Freedom minded for the mainstream politicians?
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Back in the 1960s my dad said we should throw the UN off American soil and be done with them.  My dad was the real WWII-type radical.  Thanks to him.....and the JFK assasination cover-up, and Vietnam, and Kent State.....I grew up knowing that our government was our worst enemy.   
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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

I already know what and how. I see too many things that are leading in that direction. There will be a treatise signed with the U.N. that will basically nullify our rights, and our men and women in uniform will be called away to another country at the U.N.s behest. You can bet that the U.N. will then send or activate it's military here. The state militias (National Guards) will then become federalized and activated, leaving only the police and civilians to fend off the onslaught. We will be detained, and sent to concentration camps, where we will be summarily executed. The details are far more complex than what I have written here. This is only a basic summary. Mark my words, there is another attack coming, and another larger scale media hyped "pandemic" that will call for martial law to be instituted.
Take all the things that are known to be true and start connecting the dots. The truth is out there, and is only written in small fragments here and there.
 
 
 
Sorry Cy, It won't happen. The one thing they have the advantage over us is time. This is far bigger and far better organized than most could possibly imagine. Many of us, you, me and our brothers here are hopeing for a confrontation. That way we could actually be effective in fighting this. But this has been in motion since the early 50's.
When Isreal won it's status as a nation, It's opponents took immeadiate note of her allies. The US being clearly and strongly out spoken in her defense. The world order movement already had options for long term dis-arming of their opposition (the US). They underestimated how strong the US would become and thus it has taken longer than first speculated, but they did prove that their methods were effective. We had proven during the start of WWII that as a nation we were sickenly complacent. And unless openly attacked we worked hard to "not be involved". This had worked to their advantage until Dessert Storm when the US rescued kwait. Since then we have had oppertunity to be involved in face to face conflict, but the subtle workings that exploit our complacency has been steadly at work. During the Nixon and Carter yrs. new foreign trade variables opened the door for powerful anti-American interest to gain large assets and position on our soil. Our beloved Regan stalled some of this but inadvertantly opened other avenues that Mexico exploited for different reasons. Then comes clintoon, That greedy ...............................................................................................sold us almost to the point of no return. If his exploits were brought to light the people would insist on his imidiate hanging. Thankfully Bush had the polished chrome b_ _ _s to ignore public pressure and political future and stuck it to alot of the major players in this game. But By his time things were really too far gone to stop. All that he is/was blamed for he inherited from clintoon. Had McCain got in we might have seen 3 maybe 4 more yrs of reasonable safety, but he didn't. So now what do we have? A muslim puppet that is quickly proving to be a bigger fool than his handlers are prepared for. Have you noticed that the clintoons have all but dissappeared? To save face for her next bid at office she can't afford to be seen as support. She has to be able to point out his incompitence during campaigne time.
 
Back to the point! There is no hurry to disarm you. The generation behind you is less threatened by their anti-gun lobbying. My daughter, as much as she respects my views and opinions has trouble seeing why anyone needs an assult weapon. They are not made for or ideal for hunting. They are being used by outlaws. So to her, banning them makes since because then they would be less available for outlaws to get. She has a point and the fact that you or I insist that we have the right to have one simple because we want one doesn't make a good argument.  Now, the generation after them are pretty much puddy in the anti's hands. That would be the generation that put obama in office. You know, the ones that didn't quite know what he stood for, but he could be the first black president. Wouldn't that be COOL! I mean really dude, wouldn't you want to be able to tell your grankids that you voted the first black man into office. Thats what some of the bright young students at some of our fine colleges said when asked why they were voting obama.
 
Back to the point,again. Yes we are seeing some big steps being taken to hasten gun restrictions, but they aren't expecting total victory. Why? Because what they don't gain this time, they will be ready for when your/my generation has slipped into the past.
This is going to happen. I know this because our Lord says so. Should we just step aside and let it? Absoutly NOT! We have a responsibility to know what the Lord has shared with us concerning these times, but at the same time we are obligated to maintain our rights and freedoms. If we don't then we subject ourselves to the oppressors of the world. That is the obama plan. If we be nice to them, they "might" not hurt us. Ofcourse he is one of them so he is simply leading the complacent to the killing fields. Continue to stand your ground, but if you find yourself in an actual fight for what belongs to you. Well you would be one of the few lucky ones. Like you I have "my ducks in a row" should I be challenged. But I know that is not part of "their" agenda.
 


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This actually goes even deeper than that. You and I both know it. Yes back to the fifties is when it started. Nixon was a victim of this, when he tried to gather intelligence. Regardless of what most might say about him, he was a true patriot. He went down, for far less than todays politicians are doing even before our very eyes. They have a fight on their hands, whether you believe it or not. There are entirely too many young people that they didn't count on being so freedom oriented. I am proud that I know several, and they speak highly of many more that I have yet to meet. Several of the politicians on both sides of the Dem vs Rep debate are not on our side. The very largest issue isn't what they want to happen, but instead, how soon. The Dems want it now, and are frustrated that they can't have it now. Several of them have been quoted as saying that gun legislation would mean political death for them. The very fact that they have waited this long and still aren't really any closer to their goals is making them crazy. They will attempt to backdoor us, because too many are standing in their way. Here in the U.S.A. guns are as much a part of our culture as cars are. Think about the BB guns, Cap pistols, shows on T.V. the list goes on. it is engrained, that is the very thing that stands between them and what they want. There appears to be no real end to this. It is a political stalemate for the foreseeable future. There leaves but one solution for them to make this viable in their lifetimes (and they want to see it, They want to be able to say "I did that") 
Yes what you say about the Bible is true. It will happen, it won't be peaceful. There won't be a U.S.A. when the Lord comes back to Earth. It bears out that we must first be disarmed for that to happen. Into the picture comes the U.N. Believe it or not we are all conspiracy theorists when you really step back and look at it. There is an awful lot of diversionary planning going on. The Media is a huge part of it too. Keep us all hyped up about things like Swine Flu, Avian Flu, Aids, Tuberculosis, the border, the economy (this was a designed melt down too) terrorists and the like consume us every waking hour of every day. So many are tired and want something done because they fear something. Look at where this all points. There is entirely too much here to point to, but you can see the big picture. I surely do. The Lord isn't coming until there aren't enough good men to stand for what is right. Right now there are still too many that will stand and fight. When we have been defeated then the U.S.A. will fall, and Christ will return. This may or may not happen in my lifetime, I know that it will happen in his time. I won't say I know when as so many are doing right now. I see these as scare tactics, which have been used for decades upon decades. I know what has to happen first is all. I intend to do as the good Lord instructs, and fight for what I know to be right, enough of us do that, and let the good Lord take care of his plans and all will be fine for generations to come. It starts and ends with good men, and what they are willing to stand and fight for. 
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QUOTE)Nixon was a victim of this, when he tried to gather intelligence. Regardless of what most might say about him, he was a true patriot. He went down, for far less than todays politicians are doing even before our very eyes.
 
Ain't that the truth! It sends me into near rage when I think of what was done to him. And then look at how clintoon thumbed his nose at us. Us being the people who expect and even demand a commander of integrity, courage and strength. The Lord tells us not to hate a person but the wrong they do. I have an ongoing struggle with this one. I so much want to see him brought to justice for his crimes.
Anyway your dead on in many ways, but I don't see any gov office on any level initiating some form of arms confication. And as arrogant as many of our foreign advisariorys are. I don't know any who would be foolish enough to attempt such a feet reguardless of who ordered it. Seriously, they see what is happening just like we do. We are buying ammo and arms in a way that has never happened before. If that doesn't make a CLEAR statment of what their up against then nothing will. The population has made the statment, " I will not be disarmed" They can legislate all they want to. It will effect a small percentage of those who are riding the fence, but until the anti-christ takes control after the rapture this Nation will not be disarmed. And ofcourse after the rapture the US population will be some what reduced. So then who will be left to stand against their control. The Lord didn't give us the day, but He clearly gave us the signs and said," The generation that sees these signs will not pass before that day". I am frustrated by these events, but I am not overwhelmed because I know our day is near and we are instructed to be witness of the days tragdey not participants. Don't let these things steal your joy. But have peace in knowing that these events are part of the big picture. Actually after seeing first hand the people and condition of Iraq together with the rest of the "real" world scene. It is cool to guess with some accuracy who will do what next.
 
I had to add. If you do find yourself in some battle, call on your friends. We are settin on go. Just need a mission.
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Exactly. My only point is that, it will be the U.N. to do the confiscation attempt. Our elected officials only have the balls to sign us over to them. Use the Media to hype it and make claims about why it's a good idea. The U.N. and those cronies over there are just foolish/arrogant enough to think they could accomplish this. The Rex-84 program is a part of this by the way, and enough research will show that there are several brigades of U.N. here personnel and equipment wise already. It is coming, and before the anti-christ can take control and gain the power, the U.S. will have to be disarmed. I am a believer that the act of disarming the U.S. citizenry (should he be successful) will be his stepping stone.
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i saw a bumper sticker that i thought really puts it into perspective, it said "you can trust the u.s govt. just ask an indian" and i dont think thats far from the truth.
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