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How do these scopes compare with other high end scopes?
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I own one of the old American made Redfield Illuminators in 3X9.  I have loved the clarity and wide-field affect of the view finder.  As I also own several varieties of Leupolds (M8, VXIII, and VX1 flavors), a Weaver KT, and two Burris Fullfields, I believe I can compare it's optics as equal to any of them except the VXIII.  I've used it to hunt at both dawn and dusk and can testity to the scopes ability to distinguish between a good target and a bad one. 

 

I don't believe it's as bright as either the M8 or the VXIII, but it seems to have better contrast than those two.  The Leupolds are brighter but tend to bleed out color (to my eye) where the Redfield (and the two Burris) offer a better feel for the actual colors of the woods and surroundings--which can often be as significant as the extra light.  Trying to distinguish between shades of dark brown can be important to me when I line up the cross hairs on a small target.

 

I haven't found it's adjustments to be as precise as the Leupold's when it came time to zero the scope--but that's only to say that it takes an extra shot or two more than the Leupolds each year to get the settings where they belong at the range, which is much the same as my experience with the Weaver and the Fullfields:  they all seem to take an extra couple pulls of the trigger to zero than the Leupolds do. 

 

For ten years, I'd had no problems until the scope recently malfunctioned at zooming to higher magnifications.  I've sent it off for repairs and will have to see how it goes when I get it back.

 

In all, my personal experience has caused me to favor comparably priced Leupolds, but if I found a good deal on a Redfield I'd have no problem with turning lose of the money to buy it.

 

Just my two cents...

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If there was an runoff between also-rans in the scope market, Millet and Redfield would be in a dead heat. The Redfield brand exists now only to gather a few sales from people who used to own an original one in 1960 and don't know what else to buy. Don't know why Millet brand scopes exist. If you find anyone who owns either (not the old US Redfield, lots of those owners around), please tell us. Everyone would like to know why they bought one and how they work and why buy one when so many other well established brands exist. BTW Redfields are now made in Japan, not a bad thing per se, just pointing out the new brand has nothing to do with the old company. Just the name was bought and is being used to brand a not too cheap, also-ran scope lineup.


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Redfield is nostalsia if you are over 55 years old and remember before Leupold and Stevens finally came out with a competitive/tecjhnical scope thet equaled the old redfieldd 
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I just sold my matte 3-9x40 Illuminator for $250 that I've had since the mid 90's. The FoV was reall huge and the low light capabilty was fantastic. I still have a 3-9 Illuminator AccuTrac on my Weatherby 30-06 and a 2-7 Illuminator on my Ultra Slug. Although the eye relief isn't as generous as scopes are now, whatever Redfield did for low light visability works great - yeah, I'm over 55.   
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Originally posted by hangfire hangfire wrote:

If there was an runoff between also-rans in the scope market, Millet and Redfield would be in a dead heat. The Redfield brand exists now only to gather a few sales from people who used to own an original one in 1960 and don't know what else to buy. Don't know why Millet brand scopes exist. If you find anyone who owns either (not the old US Redfield, lots of those owners around), please tell us. Everyone would like to know why they bought one and how they work and why buy one when so many other well established brands exist. BTW Redfields are now made in Japan, not a bad thing per se, just pointing out the new brand has nothing to do with the old company. Just the name was bought and is being used to brand a not too cheap, also-ran scope lineup.


 
I am not making a personal attack in anyway...
 
I do not at all believe this statement to be true.
 
Redfield Illuminators wether made here in this country or made in Japan are superior in many ways to some of the established brands.  The Redfield Illuminators specifically the last batch before this new batch are optically superior to any millet I have ever looked through or owned.  Hands down...
 
I would never put Redfield and Millet even in the same sentence as far as glass...
 
I will even argue that the Last batch of Japanese Glass Illuminators outperforms even the Mark IV or VX *** (whatever)...
 
I have done side by side comparisons with the 3-10x50 Illuminator they put out and have had about 20 other experienced (mostly high end scope owners) all compare and agree that the Redfields that were made in the last few years (before this new release) were superior to the old Redfields and to many other scopes under $1000... The comparisons they made were more along the lines of the Nikon Tactical (at the time not the new X) and the Top end sightron at the time some even made comparsions side by side (in fact) with the Ziess Conquest line and the Swarovski American line...
 
I know this will probably be debated but I wish if possible for only those owning the newer Illuminators that have the Red R with the Crosshairs that have the Illuminator on the side of the box from end to end comment on the characteristics...
 
I have run them through all the tests and they track perfectly have great fit and finish and are not a second or bad quality out of Japan they are a highly refined scope that deserves a fair shake...
 
I do own scopes that are of no comparison to the Redfields but when I say I would have to pick up one of the $1,000+ or even $2,000 range to something 1.5x as better believe me when I say the Late model Illuminators were superb for the $200-300 they were asking...Even now before this new release many Early and Late owners of the Redfields are skeptical as to if the quality will be matched to the last scopes they had in their name...
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I ran my Redfield Illuminatator in an informal test against: Leupold 3-9x40 VXI, 3-9x40 VXII, 4.5-14.5x40 AO VariXIII, Bushnell 3-9x40 Elite, Nikon 2-8x32 Monarch, Kahles 3-9x42 AH, Kahles 3.5-10x50 AH, Zeiss 2.5x8-32 Conquest, Zeiss 5-15x42 V/VM, Swarovski 4-12x50 AV.  I ran contrast gradient and resolution with the scopes all set at 8x since that was the highest common denominator.
 
The bottom line fom this informal test is that the Redfield Illuminator was substantially better than all of the scopes except the for about equalling the Leupold Vari-XIII and nearly the German/Austria optics which cost more.  The Illuminator finished in the middle of the pack close to the Vari-XIII Leupold in resolution and contrast.  This Redfield scope equals a Leupold that cost nearly twice what the Redfield sold for.
 
The Illuminator scope was nearly and good as the Zeiss Conquest.  So so much about Redfield quality.  We shall have to see how the new Redfield's fare in the maketplace.
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The Redfield Illuminator is a fine scope.The Ultimate Illuminator was there top of the line scope which had a 30mm tube 3-9x56 or 3-12x56 AO.I found the Redfield Illuminator was like a VX-III.The Ultimate Illuminator was better, I believe Leupold bought Redfield but the ones made in Japan were very good scopes also.
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I have one of the Japan Redfield Illuminators a 3x9x42 that I am very pleased with.  It has very good clarity and low light performance.  I would have to agree that its low light performance is very close to my 3.5x10x40 Leupold Vari-X III.  However, I don't think it is as precise in its adjustments or resolves as good as the Leupy.  Just my $0.02. 
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