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Hi everyone, I'm newly registered to this forum but a long time lurker and customer of SWFA (love my SS10x42 scope!). Anyway, I am also a fan of Nikon scopes and currently have a Buckmasters and Monarch UCC. Has anyone had the chance to try out the new ProStaff scopes? According to the specs on Nikon's website, they are now fully multicoated with a fast focus eye piece and better windage/elevation adjustments. I'm guessing it's a typo but they claim 98% light transmission now too. I need another scope and might try one out. Almost sounds better than my Buckmasters 3-9x40. Anybody used one? Thanks!
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I see everyone of the Prostaff line but the rimfire's are advertised as 98%light transmission?? That's quite a typo or one heck of a scope for the money! Wink
It now has a more streamlined look similar to the Buckmasters.
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Welcome to OT! I haven't tried one yet,  but I'm sure they are good scopes.... It is a Nikon afterall!Wink
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i might be on glue here, but i dont think even companies like s&b claim 98% transmission, i think most will claim 90% and some will go 95% but im not sure how many of those claims are true.
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Are the new Prostaffs made in the Philippines?
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It not just a typo on all of the ProStaff individual spec pages, it states the same thing on the new products page:

Quote our top selling ProStaff riflescope line has risen to an entirely new level for 2011.  Start with an all new body design filled with a new Fully Multicoated Optical System that boosts light transmission up to an awe-inspiring 98%.  Add ¼-MOA Handturn Reticle Adjustments with spring loaded Zero-Reset feature, Quick Focus Eyepiece, Generous and Consistent Eye Relief and full Spot On Ballistic Match Technology integration and you’re just starting to scratch the surface of the new ProStaff riflescope.

But note the 'up to 98%' part. They might be fudging on the technical aspects of light transmission in the name of advertising. It's worth an email to their CS techs for clarification. I'll shoot 'em an e-mail and report back.

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Typos whether intentional or not can get costly. I bought 2 of the Vipers that claimed to have A/O and don't. "still great scopes, but quite a typo"


I don't see 98% light transmission being possible. 

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some companies put light transmission of so much % per surface so depending on how much glass there is in the tube, you will lose a little with each lens. im wondering if this is the case here as well.
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Guys, new ProStaf scopes are just that: new.  Hence noone knows how well they perform.  They are made in the Phillipines, however, in the same factory as a bunch of other similarly priced scopes.  They should be decent.

As far as the light transmission number go, they mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for scope performance in this case.  That is just a marketing number, so you can comfortably ignore it.

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I'm mostly curious about the consistency/quality of their new turret adjustments.
 
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Here's the response I got just a few moments ago from Nikon Technical Support:
Quote That is correct, the new Prostaff line has a 98% light transmission with a fully multi-coated system. The re-design of the scope has also include a zero-Reset turret system. Which allows you to easily set the scope on the zero mark once sighted in.

While it doesn't explain how or why Nikon would design the new Prostaff line-up to offer better light transmission than their higher-end scope models, it does make me interested enough to have a first hand look at them out of sheer curiousity.
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they probably gave it a new turret and a little better quality glass. its probably as good as the buckmaster from like 5yrs ago is what i will guess, course its just a guess at this point.
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The new Prostaff has 98% light transmission. The Monarch Gold only has 95% even though it has a 30mm tube, which, according to the Nikon website, allows "superior low-light performance."

So, if they'd make a 30mm Prostaff, it should have about 101% light transmission.
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Originally posted by Shenko Shenko wrote:

The new Prostaff has 98% light transmission. The Monarch Gold only has 95% even though it has a 30mm tube, which, according to the Nikon website, allows "superior low-light performance."

So, if they'd make a 30mm Prostaff, it should have about 101% light transmission.
 
Exactly!  Whacko
 
It seems the Nikon design team is obviously bending the parameters of whatever universally accepted 'light transmission' forumulas may have existed previously within the industry.
 
Unfortunately this opens up the floodgates for other manufacturers to fudge on their specs as well.
 
I will continue to primarily refer to my eyeball as the most accurate guage of a scope's ability to gather light and deliver a quality image.
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they always have though. 
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Originally posted by Shenko Shenko wrote:

The new Prostaff has 98% light transmission. The Monarch Gold only has 95% even though it has a 30mm tube, which, according to the Nikon website, allows "superior low-light performance."

So, if they'd make a 30mm Prostaff, it should have about 101% light transmission.
Good grief, here we go again!  The scope tube size has nothing to do with light transmission.
 
Marketers are cagey folk.  All that transmission figure means is that is the highest single lens light transmission in the system is whatever they list.  Other surfaces may well have less transmission than that.  consider there may be, say 10 pieces of glass for example, each one transmits what it is capable of, and the transmission decreases by a percent or two at each lens as it moves through the entire system.
 
Coatings, design, quality, and workmanship play a much more significant role in perceived brightness.


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