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I have evidently morphed into a recoil sissy! When I get to .338 WM (and above) levels, I'm getting very flinchy. Basically, my shooting sucks. I've been investigating MB's (and have tried several at the range) but they aren't really my favorites. Most do indeed lessen recoil, but the price in muzzle blast may not be worth the trade-off. With that said, has anybody had experience (good or bad) with the Knoxx rifle compstock? I've heard some comments, but never actually seen or used one. Any feedback guys. Thanks to all...........and to all a good night. LocoLocoLocoLoco
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I am suggesting a muzzle break. The Surefire muzzlebreak is one of the most effective I have ever used...

 
I have installed these on a few rifles and they are just superb...They were designed with not kicking up dust in mind they do not offer "noise supression" but effectively do not add noise buy using a patented "couple of well placed holes" relief system for the gas...For 150-200$ well worth it...This is an adapter for the supressors they make so you know a ot of time and engineering went into this product.  I have used many other "custom muzzlebreaks and recoil reduction systems and this has proven to be the best for me.  It has taken a few .338LM I have down to right around 243win recoil...
 
Not pretty but practical(not ugly either) This adapter functions alone as a high-performance muzzle brake when the suppressor is removed. Patented design greatly diffuses side blast, counteracts up/right muzzle movement to keep muzzle on target, eliminates felt concussion on shooter. Heat-treated stainless steel construction. Features
    • Provides rock-solid suppressor attachment in seconds without tools
    • Precise tolerances provide minimal and consistent zero shift regardless of number of attach/detach cycles
    • Acts as high-efficiency muzzle brake when suppressor is removed
    • High resistance to heat and gas/particle erosion
    • Installation requires no permanent modifications to most firearms

 


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Might want to look at the JP Enterprises one if you don't mind ugly. They really work. I put one on a .300 WSM and it's like shooting a .243 or smaller now...
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I have been looking at stocks for a 375 Ruger I have coming and noticed the Knoxx Comp Stock.  What I was wondering about was the increased possibility of the scope coming back and giving you a smack in the face.  Perhaps if you had a scope with an extra long eye relief of well over 4" then that would not be a problem.
 
Would be interested if anyone has put one on a gun
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I have used th Knox stock on an 870 and it does an excellent job on taming slugs. Howa is using them on some of there rifles. I don't understand why Howa puts them on the .204 or 22-250s except as a sales gimmick but on larger rifles they could be a big advantage. Sakomato may have a point as to why because of scope kisses. The Knox stock I used did add some weight to the shotgun. The Howa Axiom rifles with the Knox system are about 1 lb heaver than similar rifles without the recoil reduction.

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I cannot handle recoil for several reasons, what about a pair if these with the use of a muzzlebrake, Im going to buy some soon just like em, the reviews are great, price not bad.
 

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i wear custom fit ear plugs and put ear muffs over the top of them, that helped my accuracy so much and im not even shooting a braked gun. a lead sled helps a ton as well, 50lbs of weight will tame a .375H&H. you wont notice it when hunting anyway.
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

I have evidently morphed into a recoil sissy! When I get to .338 WM (and above) levels, I'm getting very flinchy. Basically, my shooting sucks. I've been investigating MB's (and have tried several at the range) but they aren't really my favorites. Most do indeed lessen recoil, but the price in muzzle blast may not be worth the trade-off. With that said, has anybody had experience (good or bad) with the Knoxx rifle compstock? I've heard some comments, but never actually seen or used one. Any feedback guys. Thanks to all...........and to all a good night. LocoLocoLocoLoco


At what are you shooting that requires .338 and above?
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My question exactly.
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Originally posted by okc4956 okc4956 wrote:

Might want to look at the JP Enterprises one if you don't mind ugly. They really work. I put one on a .300 WSM and it's like shooting a .243 or smaller now...


The JP enterprise breaks do work great.  I had one on a .300 WSM as well and a .243 is what I would say it felt like.

BUT, they are so loud and obnoxious it was unbearable to shoot even with ears on.  The concussion was crazy. 
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

I have evidently morphed into a recoil sissy! When I get to .338 WM (and above) levels, I'm getting very flinchy. Basically, my shooting sucks. I've been investigating MB's (and have tried several at the range) but they aren't really my favorites. Most do indeed lessen recoil, but the price in muzzle blast may not be worth the trade-off. With that said, has anybody had experience (good or bad) with the Knoxx rifle compstock? I've heard some comments, but never actually seen or used one. Any feedback guys. Thanks to all...........and to all a good night. LocoLocoLocoLoco


At what are you shooting that requires .338 and above?

are you kidding? everybody should shoot a whitetail or a hog with a .338 at least once in there life, it will make you chuckle in a sinister sort of way. i think if you head into the bush of alaska .338 is a required min for chasing bears. i may be wrong.

he does live in florida, maybe he has a gator gun or two. you never know when you need to step out the back door and dispatch of a beached whale or shark.Bucky


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I will be having a Vias Brake installed, one thing nice is you can always take it off if you do not want to use it and install the cap (thread protector) back on the muzzle. My rifles are strictly hunting rifles , not tactical....Im told they are not as loud as what you are talking about  Jason (ST) and if it was I would just bag the whole idea and buy a something much smaller than what Im shooting.. Im certainly not in an endurance contest here.Wink
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My 300WM has yet to not kill a hog, one ran a bit, but it was dark, he took a round to both lungs, he was dead, just didn't yet know it.


I have seen a hog take a .50-cal round, it was amusing, glad I didn't spend $5,000 for that moment of amusement.

To each, his own, no problem; but one way to avoid flinch is to train with something smaller than the .338.  I heavy-barrel 223 is a great trainer: cheap to shoot, enough weight to feel substantial, not enough recoil to give you the yips.
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Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

I will be having a Vias Brake installed, one thing nice is you can always take it off if you do not want to use it and install the cap (thread protector) back on the muzzle. My rifles are strictly hunting rifles , not tactical....Im told they are not as loud as what you are talking about  Jason (ST) and if it was I would just bag the whole idea and buy a something much smaller than what Im shooting.. Im certainly not in an endurance contest here.Wink


I have a Vias on a GAP non-typical hunter, it is loud.  The best option is to buy good hearing protection, something you can wear on a hunt.
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What type of ear protection did you tell me you used Jeff?
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http://www.msanorthamerica.com/catalog/product502773.html

Great ear muffs, low-profile, very comfortable, very good ambient amplification. Comfortable.

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Currently, I'm not hunting anything that REQUIRES a .338 WM and above. I plan to be in the future though (if that's o.k with everybody on here). All I did was ask about the Compstock...geez.
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Jeff, What type do you have neck band or head band? Do you think they are better than these? http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=541841
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I've had bad experiences with Peltor, they aren't real durable.

I use headband, not neckband.

Neckband would be better if you wear a hat.
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Take a look at the Surefire (unofficially I am saying this I believe you will notice a decible reduction...)vI hate to even publish this but look at the baf... design of the surefire Muzzle Break...  Does it make sense that a Supressor manufacutrer would want to add noise to a supressed product line...Uhhhhh  noooooo...Not all tacticlly minded but practically minded...
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I have the Knoxx axium stock on a .300 wsm, it works really well, it has less felt recoil than my .308. Right now I have a Nikkon Buckmaster scope with about 3 1/2" of eye relief, and have yet to hit my eye, it moves more but not that much, you can also adjust the length of pull enough that you could probably go with a scout scope on it if for some reason you wanted to.
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Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

Take a look at the Surefire (unofficially I am saying this I believe you will notice a decible reduction...)vI hate to even publish this but look at the baf... design of the surefire Muzzle Break...  Does it make sense that a Supressor manufacutrer would want to add noise to a supressed product line...Uhhhhh  noooooo...Not all tacticlly minded but practically minded...
 That is interesting. I have long harbored a hatred of muzzle brakes (and those who manufacture and sell them; Big Grin), but an effective one that truly dampened or at least failed to amplify muzzle blast would be a great addition to almost any hard kicking rifle.
 I'm still a bit skeptical though.
 
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Well I took the plunge last night and ordered a Knoxx stock for the 375 Ruger I have coming.  Found the cheapest price at $269.95 with free shipping and in stock at a competitor I shouldn't mention and said what the hell it is my birthday so I ordered it. 
 
When I get everything put together next spring I will let you know if it works.  I have a choice of an IOR 6x42 or a Zeiss Diavari 2.5x10x50 to put on it.  The IOR is supposed to have 4" eye relief and the Zeiss 3.54" but I need to take them out and verify by actual measurement.  I think I read somewhere that the rearward travel of the stock is 1 3/4" but you have to add the normal recoil travel on to that I assume.
 
I think if I paint the Knoxx stock it will look pretty normal.  The only thing I'm worried about is the scope hitting my forehead.
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