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Has anyone used this reticle for the .204 Ruger?  I am going to order either the 6.5x20x50 ao mc in fine x-hair or rapid z.  Can anyone explain how it works exactly?

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Is there anyone on this forum?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2007 at 11:03
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I saw that, but I am asking if anyone has actually used the system yet, and their thoughts on it.  Advertisement from the company is one thing, pratical use in the field is another.  If everything worked like it said it would in the advertising, wouldn't life be grand? 

 

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SWFA might have some good prices on scopes and such, but the forum is slower than molasses running uphill in January! 
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Super 91, the probelm is that the Rapid Z is new to Zeiss. My guess is that it is not in wide use. I just bought a Zeiss DiAVARI 6x-24 x 56mm. got the Mil Dot because
the rapid Z wasn't available. I too am interested in how well it works
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Yeah, I just thought someone might have given it a whirl.  I ordered two of the Conquests in the Rapid Z.  It just looks like a good system.  I wanted to the the Davari but I was buying for two so I had to opt for the Conquest line.  You got a great scope though.  I really like Zeiss and Kahles.  Top of the line in my opinion.
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When you get the Rapid Z I would be interested in your impressions. I also have a Conquest 4.5-14 x50mm with the ZPlex. I love it. it is on a Kimber 270WSM. You
can't go wrong. The Diavari I got because I loved the Glass. But you don't see to many posts on this forum from Diavari owners. I guess they are not all that popular
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If everyone had $2000 to spend on their glass, they would be immensly popular.  Most people I know will spend $1000 on a rifle and $50 on glass.  An old man told me one time...."Take a $1000 rifle and put $50 glass on it and you have a $50 rifle.  Take a $50 rifle and put $1000 glass on it and you have a $1000 rifle."  And boy does that ring so true.  I have guys, most everyone one I know tell me I am crazy for spending over $200 for glass.  I know better. 

 

One time I had a Leupold vx-ii on a rifle and was sitting at the edge of a field.  I knew the deer were going to enter the field near me, so I had buried myself in a blowdown and got ready.  I could hear the deer walking to me, but try as I might, I could not see them in the scope.  They were 50-75 yards away and still in the canopy where they were shaded.  I put the rifle down, picked up my "cheap" Zeiss Diafun 10x30's, and there they were plain as day.  The bell on the scope was 50mm, and the Diafuns were 30mm, yet the binos gathered plenty of light and the Leupold left me lacking.  I have had that happen a number of time with even the upper end Leupolds, and although I think they make a decent scope, I think there are a ton of better options out there on the market today such as the Conquest line. 

 

I will post my thoughts on the scope when I get it in, and when I have a chance to shoot it.  BTW, that 270WSM is one nice round.  Buddy of mine has it and I watched him shoot a hog with it this spring.  Bullet never exited and made mincemeat of the heart, lungs, and liver.  Total devastation.  Hog went about 18".....straight down. 

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since the new zeiss's (at least to my understanding) are sfp it will solve some of the pos problems I have with my 2.5x10 Diavari 50 z, (having had for many years and hardly used.) The scope is almost unusable on powers from 2.5x5 because of off axis "warping" and the incredible "tunnel effect' discribed by technika in another forum post. While I am excited about the possiblity of zeiss at last finally getting a reticle system that even comes close to nightforce-- certainly not enough till I've hands on for a while.

Hopefully the conquest line will continue to improve, so that one day they may say, "we're as good as a monarch".

One of by questions--- will the incremental spacing on the z1000 be to fine to be useful?  etc.

get one and let us know.

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Micky Fowler and John Pride of PFI Scopes were contracted by Zeiss to design their Rapid-Z line. These reticles are not much different than the Rapid Reticles they have in their own line of scopes, of which i have 1 on my AR 223 AI. It is the 3-9X 32mm 22 Long Rifle reticle which i just love for coyote hunting (http://www.rapidreticle.com/22lr3-9x32.htm). Awhile back Jacob Gottfredson wrote up their scopes/reticles in Precision Shooting mag. In the article he suggested they take out the yardage #'s, and simply mark each main stadia with a simple # designation so the scopes could be adapted for other than 1 specific trajectory. They did just that  Of course the reticle in my scope is not set up for the trajectory of my load, but i simply adapted it by way of a subtension system once i had a schematic for the reticle. It was dead on the nose according to my ballistic program out to 500 yds. The zeroing system is gonna be very similar to the Leupold system in that it's simply based on a subtension change with magnification change. In other words it may or may not work for even 100 yd. intervals all the way out to 600 yds. or so, but when applied via a subtension vs. trajectory system in 25-50 yd. intervals it oughtta be an excellent 2nd focal plane ballistic/rangefinding reticle system, IF u don't mind a busy reticle. The windage system is excellent, IMO. Hopefully they will supply a schematic for the reticle with subtension info. If they don't then that will not be a good thing.

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