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Well i think that i have decided that i am going to get the Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 rifle scope and as I have said many times before, I have a Weatherby Vanguard S/S 7mm Remington Magnum that I USUALLY use for Northern MI whitetail.  The whole time that I have been looking for a rifle scope I thought that all I would need is a Duplex reticle, but now i am considering the rapid Z 600 reticle.  Other than N. MI whitetail I might take an ocasional hunt with my friend out in Montana or Colorado (for rams, elk, mule deer, etc.)  By ocasional I mean no more than once a year, if that.  In N. MI, i hunt all over, thick swamps, hardwoods, pine forests, many corn fields, and hay fields.
 
I would like to know if the Rapid Z 600 would be usefull or needed in the area I hunt?  Is there anybody on here that hunt simlar to the terrain that i hunt, and find the Rapid Z style to be needed or usefull?  Or should I stick simple with the duplex and just get another scope for out west if needed?
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I think the rapid z (in 3x9x40) is made for slower rounds.  I tried to make it work for my 7mm mag and the calculator that zeiss offers suggests a higher powered scope...unless you're using a very heavy, slow moving bullet you may be out of luck.  Go to the zeiss web-site and make sure that it will work.  If not get the regular reticle.
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Most any ballistic style reticle can be adopted to work with a required amount of range time. The only way to know for sure where any round will match up to the reticle is to practice at the ranges you intend to use it for and note how it matches up ...Use that particular round when hunting, and re-verify just prior to your season and you should be okay.
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I'm a duplex fan, though I just purchased a scope with a ballistic plex.  Haven't shot it yet, but its an interesting concept.
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I'm a duplex fan also.  Had a Burris FFII with ballistic plex and did NOT like it!  It's too busy for me.   I try to get within 250 yards of my target and the plex it great for that!
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I live in an area similar to where you live (upstate NY) and I have a Conquest 3.5-10x44 with a #4 reticle on a 300 WSM and really like it. The #4 reticle is very easy for me  to use at 0 - 300 yards.
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I like the plex too probably because that's all I've known for about 40+ years. Just started using the 4a this year and it's really cool. The only negative I find, for me, is I wish the inner cross hairs were a little thinner for better long shot placement.



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Originally posted by swtucker swtucker wrote:

I think the rapid z (in 3x9x40) is made for slower rounds.  I tried to make it work for my 7mm mag and the calculator that zeiss offers suggests a higher powered scope...unless you're using a very heavy, slow moving bullet you may be out of luck.  Go to the zeiss web-site and make sure that it will work.  If not get the regular reticle.
 
I think a Rapid-Z would suit you for the corn fields and hay fields if the shots are long, but would not be the best choice for thick swamps or pine forests, where you can't see far enough to make a shot further than 300 yards or less. As far as the above post, if you were shooting something like a 150 gr. core lokt, it would work great on about 8x. If you shot something more along the lines of a ballistic tip, or accubond that shoots flatter, your marks would not work out in nice 100 yard increments. This is not a huge issue for me because I haven't known game to stand at nice 100 yard increments from me. Only you can decide what reticle is best for you. I hunt wide open fields, and love my Rapid-Z, but in tight quarters it may not be ideal. The main crosshairs are thick enough to see easily, but I don't know if it would be as good as a plex in tight wooded areas, as we don't have any trees here.
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