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I am interested in these three optics ( or similar ) in this price area. The application is 7mm Rem Mag for Western Hunting as well as time at the Bench.
 
Meopta Meostar R1 4 x 16 x 40     $749
Minox ZA5             3 x 15 x 40     $528
Leupold VX3     4.5 X 14 x 40 AO  $599
 
Are these the "high Value choices" ?
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I like the Meopta Meostar but, IMO, they are heavy (bulky) with short eye relief. I have no hands-on experience with the Minox, but will be getting one to mess with. The Leupy is (sort of) the old standard. I have one VX3 and like it o.k. You may want to throw a Bushnell Elite 6500, a Vortex and a Zeiss Conquest in to the mix. In short, any of your selections are capable of getting the job done. Good luck.
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Zeiss 4.5-14x44 @$829.95.I'm very happy with my Minox Z5 4-20x50 can't speak for the 3-15 but Ilya thinks highly of them. Very good glass & a good eye mag box.
 
Zeiss has owned Meopta since 2009 so I don't think you can go wrong with that one either but as bugs stated they are heavy.
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Thank's for the replys. I guess that weight is a criteria I should have added. I still have to lug this thing around in the hills!
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Zeiss has owned Meopta since 2009
 
I haven't heard that.  I know Meopta has done some OEM work for Zeiss, but I haven't heard of the company subsidiary relationship.
 
Here is Meopta's History story:
 
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Zeiss 4.5-14x44 @$829.95.I'm very happy with my Minox Z5 4-20x50 can't speak for the 3-15 but Ilya thinks highly of them. Very good glass & a good eye mag box.
 
Zeiss has owned Meopta since 2009 so I don't think you can go wrong with that one either but as bugs stated they are heavy.

ILya thinks highly of the Minox ZA-5 3-15x50SF and thoroughly dislikes the 3-15x42.

As far as Zeiss owning Meopta goes, that is something new (to me).  Was there an announcement?

ILya
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Other than the OEM work for Zeiss, I haven't heard that either. They are 120 km from one of our plants in CZ. I hope I can stop in this year.
The price shown for the R1 looks more like the 4-12x40. The Meostars have great glass. It is also is heavy. I would consider this the top of the three listed. The three inches of eye relief is not too bad for a 7mag unless it is an uber lightweight.
The Leuplod is nice, but why the AO?
The Minox comes in 40 and 50mm from what I'm seeing. I have no experience, otherwise.
Still, the R1 I checked out was sweet. With the 4A it was excellent in low light and looking into cover.


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As of early 2011 that was NOT true.  Meopta was still a privately owned Czech Republic company.  I don't know if anything happened after that, but I don't really keep up with that stuff much.  
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Looked through a leupold vx3 the other day. The eye-box to my highly trained eye was terrible at max magnification, actually liked the redfield better in that catagory. Your experiences will no doubt be different.  
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Other than the OEM work for Zeiss, I haven't heard that either. They are 120 km from one of our plants in CZ. I hope I can stop in this year.
The price shown for the R1 looks more like the 4-12x40. The Meostars have great glass. It is also is heavy. I would consider this the top of the three listed. The three inches of eye relief is not too bad for a 7mag unless it is an uber lightweight.
The Leuplod is nice, but why the AO?
The Minox comes in 40 and 50mm from what I'm seeing. I have no experience, otherwise.
Still, the R1 I checked out was sweet. With the 4A it was excellent in low light and looking into cover.
Well, the AO is mentioned because I have a a NIB Leupy 4.5 X 14 X 40 AO in my posession. I havenet had good luck with Leupolds, but, since I have one, I thought I would put it in the running.
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I would mount it and get shooting! The Leupolds are good scopes.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

I would mount it and get shooting! The Leupolds are good scopes.
  I just wanted to get the most for that application. I have a couple of other setups that I shoot allot. I didnt want to use it "just because I have it" kind of thing. Its a nice rifle, so I wanted to figure the best option. ( best for me being >$1000  :) )
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Swarovski Z3 Riflescopeshttp://swfa.com/Swarovski-4-12x50-Z3-Riflescope-P40819.aspx

Swarovski 4-12x50 Z3 Riflescope
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Stock # - SWA59023
  • Matte
  • 4A
  • 1"
Specifications
Weight (oz):14.5


4A

Length (in):13.78
Eye Relief (in):3.54
Field of View @ 100yds (ft):29.1 - 9.9
Exit Pupil (mm):12.5 - 4.2
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/11/2012 at 06:57
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Hi,
 
Just to settle the rumor, Meopta is NOT owned by ZEISS and never has been.
 
Thanks!
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